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  Ruby Novacna > 28-04-2022, 12:29 PM

  In one of my blog posts I talked about my "discovery" of the Greek dialect You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. This dialect, a descendant of Lakonian, has the particularity of having several hushing sibilants sounds that do not exist in ancient Greek and of using several digraphs to transcribe them. All this reminded me sh, dsh, dch, pch, fch etc. of the Voynich text.
  I even found an online dictionary, that of M. Deffner with four missing pages.
  
  Do you know of any links to documents on Tsakonika, dictionaries, grammar etc?
  
  Has anyone explored this avenue before?

• RE: Tsakonika

  Aga Tentakulus > 28-04-2022, 04:58 PM

  Your "sh, dsh, dch, pch, fch etc." look heavily like EVA.
  These are not sibilants. It is just a way to capture the VM characters via the PC keyboard for the computer and its programmes.
  It is perhaps unfortunate that the EVA "8" is chosen the same as the old "d". The same for "a + o". and others.
  
  If it were written in ascii it would look something like this. "165 198 256 113".
  
  What you have in mind is the same when I try to calculate the quacking of ducks matematically for the coming lottery numbers.
  
  You write on the other trade that you have understood it, but you have not.

• RE: Tsakonika

  Ruby Novacna > 28-04-2022, 07:19 PM

  (28-04-2022, 04:58 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Your "sh, dsh, dch, pch, fch etc." look heavily like EVA.

  These are combinations of the EVA glyphs, effectively.
  
  

  (28-04-2022, 04:58 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You write on the other trade that you have understood it, but you have not.

  This may well be the case. I am trying to understand.

• RE: Tsakonika

  Ruby Novacna > 29-04-2022, 12:03 PM

  I think that this dialect can broaden the search base for plain text words. For example, Deffner's dictionary presents the word νυθη as the equivalent of Greek νυμφη - young wife, bride. This word can be transcribed in Voinichese as You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

• RE: Tsakonika

  Ruby Novacna > 11-05-2022, 09:16 AM

  According to Deffner, Tsakonian ph sometimes replaces Greek σπ, μπ, μφ and π.
  
  I consider that in the manuscript ph is transcribed as pch and cph, but perhaps the two forms belong to different dialects?

• RE: Tsakonika

  Ruby Novacna > 23-07-2022, 07:25 AM

  The voynichese word dshedy, can it be Tsakonian dzita, equivalent to Greek κοιτη?
  

  • κοιτη = κοιτος –bedstead ; lair, nest ; resting-place, bed ; sleep.
    

• RE: Tsakonika

  Ruby Novacna > 22-12-2022, 09:55 AM

  As I continued to read little by little about Greek dialects, I learned that Tsakonian is not the only dialect that transformed the k of certain words into tsh, Cypriot Greek, for example, did so too.
  Unfortunately I can't find dictionaries to compare with our text.
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