Mark Knowles > 23-12-2021, 03:21 PM
(23-12-2021, 02:53 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm not sure much could be proven definitively by the isolation of human DNA from unknown and un-sequenced people on the manuscript, or any ancient artifact for that matter. In fact, I could see this opening up the field to all sorts of new red herrings. For example, say a bit of human DNA was scraped off a folio of the VMs, which was definitively identified as belonging to Y-DNA haplotype Q. Soon you've got a crank with a whole blog dedicated to resurrecting Janick and Tucker's New World origin theory, on the basis that most Native American males are haplotype Q.
Mark Knowles > 23-12-2021, 03:34 PM
(23-12-2021, 03:05 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That's what I was thinking as well. Even if a determination were conclusive (e.g. a DNA strain from a specific region in Europe), this still wouldn't allow us to eliminate much. It wouldn't even eliminate New World theories.My thinking would be much more ambitious, though I don't think unrealistic. I quite enjoy some of these finding your ancestry TV shows. I remember one where they were looking at the ancestry of Larry David, an American comedian, and Bernie Sanders, an American politician. They discovered that they both had a common stretch of DNA that demonstrated that they both had a common ancestor in recent history that neither were aware of(few generations ago).
Aga Tentakulus > 23-12-2021, 07:08 PM
Mark Knowles > 23-12-2021, 07:34 PM
(23-12-2021, 07:08 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@ Mark
I think it is not possible to search DNA under the ink.
The ink is a dissolved liquid and is absorbed by the parchment.
The human DNA would be somewhere in the ink.
I can understand your idea, but it is not a varnish where I can just peel off.
bi3mw > 23-12-2021, 08:21 PM
Quote:The DNA sequences used to generate the poultry-specific PCR systems for turkey, pheasant, quail, and guinea fowl were obtained from gene databases.
LisaFaginDavis > 23-12-2021, 08:22 PM
Mark Knowles > 23-12-2021, 08:53 PM
(23-12-2021, 08:22 PM)LisaFaginDavis Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The manuscript is six hundred years old. Even if only two different humans handled it each year, that's more than 1,200 different opportunities for epithelial or other cells to be left behind (including mine!), and that doesn't include the multiple humans who helped to create it: slaughter and skin the calves, prepare the parchment, mix the ink, grind the pigment, write the text, paint the illustrations, organize the sheets and quires, sew the quires and attach them to the binding, etc.
The best places to look for cellular debris in any manuscript would be along the edges (where hands turn pages) and in the gutters (where there isn't much airflow).
DONJCH > 24-12-2021, 06:31 AM
Linda > 24-12-2021, 05:26 PM