Koen G > 17-07-2021, 06:11 PM
Searcher > 17-07-2021, 07:47 PM
(17-07-2021, 06:11 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.At first I aso thought those shapes could be crescents, but then I realized VM-internal evidence (which, I agree, should be considered first) argues against it.
(image)
It appears that those shapes function like rays or flames, tongues of fire.
Quote: Also, I personally doubt their number is relevant. If you draw a group of objects, they must by definition have a number. But in most cases, this number will be irrelevant. In the case of the top left rosette, the "flames" are not presented in a way that's easy to count (unevenly spaced, variably sized an shaped, asymmetrical). Nor are they clustered in easy to count groups.Actually I wouldn't say it is hard for counting, but I don't mind that the number can be irrelevant in this case. Nevertheless it doesn't mean that it doesn't concern the Moon. Look at the opposite side of the foldout You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. : You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. contains diagrams with the sun and with the moon, obviously both should present on the Rosettes scheme. You can see that You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , all its three images are connected to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , they have quite similar patterns and shapes that are repeated on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (Rosettes).
Koen G > 17-07-2021, 09:01 PM
R. Sale > 17-07-2021, 09:38 PM
Searcher > 17-07-2021, 09:49 PM
(17-07-2021, 09:01 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What I mean is that in f68r, the celestial body is surrounded by these crescent shapes. If we assume consistent pattern usage, then it seems more likely to me that this pattern represents some kind of rays rather than a circle of moons attached to a circle.
Quote:Moreover, there are no examples of crescent moons lining a circle or oval like this,...I would add that there are no examples of such depiction and location of Christ's Wound, as well.
Quote:Manuscript -internally, I would say that since these crescent shapes are found surrounding a heavenly body like rays (see my image above from 68r), they are likely some kind of rays.Please, reread my previous post. Rays in the VMs are depicted in usual recognisible way. If those crescents mean some kind of rays, thay, first of all, don't relate to the sun, and, possibly, depicted in such manner - to show their relation to the moon, but not the sun. Your suggestions! Why do they differ from the rays of the sun? What the kind of flame could they mean?
Searcher > 17-07-2021, 10:15 PM
Koen G > 17-07-2021, 10:43 PM
Aga Tentakulus > 17-07-2021, 11:26 PM
Searcher > 17-07-2021, 11:53 PM
(17-07-2021, 10:43 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The best parallel for "mandorla with only flames inside" I found is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., though with a date of 1474 it is a bit late (which you don't seem to mind).As about me, I don't consider the left top rosette mandorla. I think, here, it is the Moon, but not just the Moon as a luminary, but its composed image that reflects its physical and esoteric essence and sacred meaning.