• Part of Zodiac was added later?
  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    februs > 25-02-2022, 10:21 PM

    hi, I can't understand some words.
    please teach me their?(´-ω-`)
    I don't understand when read VM product(´・ω・`)


    1. Quire
    2. bifolium
    3. Quiremarks
  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    R. Sale > 25-02-2022, 11:23 PM

    No, she is not possible candidate. She is just an exceptional example of what was possible at a time corresponding to the VMs C-14 dating. There is no valid reason to reject potential female writing or artistry.

    The connection is more subtle. There are a few examples where artistic techniques of early 1400s Paris, as seen in the illustrations of de Pizan works, can also be found in the VMs. And, as I understand it, Christine, herself was not an artist.

    As to the five samples, thanks, Koen, - there they are. Make of them what you prefer. Men or women??
  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    februs > 26-02-2022, 01:14 AM

    (25-02-2022, 11:23 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.No, she is not possible candidate. She is just an exceptional example of what was possible at a time corresponding to the VMs C-14 dating. There is no valid reason to reject potential female writing or artistry.

    The connection is more subtle. There are a few examples where artistic techniques of early 1400s Paris, as seen in the illustrations of de Pizan works, can also be found in the VMs. And, as I understand it, Christine, herself was not an artist.

    As to the five samples, thanks, Koen, - there they are. Make of them what you prefer. Men or women??


    I see(´-ω-`)
    exactly, in VM it can see artistic techniques Mediaval Middle East.


    what is 'the five samples'? I don't know about it (;´・ω・)
  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    DONJCH > 26-02-2022, 08:44 AM

    (25-02-2022, 10:21 PM)februs Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.hi, I can't understand some words.
    please teach me their?(´-ω-`)
    I don't understand when read VM product(´・ω・`)


    1. Quire
    2. bifolium
    3. Quiremarks

    For basic information on this subject check You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

    The way I think of it is this:

    A bifolium is a sheet of parchment folded down the middle to make 4 "pages"
    A quire is several of these stitched together to make a "chapter"
    Quiremarks are the labels on the quires 1 2 3 4 ...

    (Others more experienced may dispute this)
  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    februs > 26-02-2022, 08:56 PM

    (26-02-2022, 08:44 AM)DONJCH Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
    (25-02-2022, 10:21 PM)februs Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.hi, I can't understand some words.
    please teach me their?(´-ω-`)
    I don't understand when read VM product(´・ω・`)


    1. Quire
    2. bifolium
    3. Quiremarks

    For basic information on this subject check You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

    The way I think of it is this:

    A bifolium is a sheet of parchment folded down the middle to make 4 "pages"
    A quire is several of these stitched together to make a "chapter"
    Quiremarks are the labels on the quires 1 2 3 4 ...

    (Others more experienced may dispute this)

    sorry(;´・ω・) I read it, but it isn't written explanation about their.
    it is written explanation about quiremarks.
    but it don't explain about quire and bifolio and folio.
  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    RobGea > 26-02-2022, 11:55 PM

    Hi februs, this may help:

    Medieval Manuscripts-The Quire
    ( Slide 4 is the one you want )
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  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    Helmut Winkler > 27-02-2022, 04:38 PM

    @ februs

    A very good glossary on the subject, very likely more than you require is

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  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    februs > 27-02-2022, 05:56 PM

    [quote = "RobGea" pid = '49117' dateline = '1645916145']
    こんにちはフェブルウス、これは役立つかもしれません:

    中世の写本-クワイア
    (スライド4が必要なものです)
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    [/引用]

    I want to know what is quire(´・ω・`)
    not exist quire.
  • RE: Part of Zodiac was added later?

    februs > 27-02-2022, 06:04 PM

    [quote = "Helmut Winkler" pid = '49152' dateline = '1645976324']
    @フェブルウス

    このテーマに関する非常に優れた用語集であり、必要以上に多くの可能性があります。

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    [/引用]

    thank you for URL(∩´∀`)∩
    I understand all question((´∀`))ケラケラ
    the site explains very well.