Koen G > 16-09-2020, 08:57 AM
(16-09-2020, 08:35 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When one starts combining individual characters in the Voynich text, one can therefore never be sure if one is resolving a verbose cipher element, or compressing a frequent bigram.
Anton > 16-09-2020, 09:15 AM
(15-09-2020, 10:05 PM)geoffreycaveney Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[e], [y]
[d], [k], [t]
[s], [l], [r]
[ch], [sh]
[ain], [aiin], [aiiin]
[air], [ar], [al], [am]
[or], [ol]
[ok], [ot], [od]
[qo], [qok], [qot]
Koen G > 16-09-2020, 09:39 AM
MichelleL11 > 16-09-2020, 10:50 AM
(16-09-2020, 07:56 AM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.MichelleL11, the fragment cited by you describes the situation when two cleartext letters are merged into the same ciphertext letter. So it's not applicable to geoffreycaveney's post about merging EVA-or or EVA-ol, but rather to his earlier post about merging p and b, t and d,... into the same ciphertext letters (in our case into Voynich letters).Thank you for pointing out my misunderstandings - l’m going to keep trying to get this!
Anton > 16-09-2020, 10:54 AM
Anton > 16-09-2020, 10:58 AM
MichelleL11 > 16-09-2020, 12:12 PM
MarcoP > 16-09-2020, 12:23 PM
(16-09-2020, 02:27 AM)aStobbart Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I found this old thread where this idea is discussed, with a comment from Nick Pelling:
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Koen G > 16-09-2020, 12:36 PM
(16-09-2020, 12:12 PM)MichelleL11 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Could the function of the glyph pair (e.g. verbose cipher component vs frequent bigram) be some how reflective of the impact it has on entropy? That is, could removing one or the other “kind” of pair be associated with a particular direction of entropy change (or lack thereof)?
In other words, are we completely certain that these two functions would not be distinguishable through the statistics?
Emma May Smith > 16-09-2020, 02:16 PM