LisaFaginDavis > 15-07-2020, 01:21 PM
(09-07-2020, 05:46 PM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The VMS has several fairly well definable sections but there are some pages
especially the text only pages, well, slight misnomer; text pages plus other odd ones,
that are not quite so easy to place:
I was hoping as a little project to ascribe all pages to definable sectionsCode:f1r: Q1 ; Intro page
f57v: Q8 ; (not all text, 4 people, circular text), LFD ascribes tentatively to Scribe1
f58r: Q8 ; 3 stars, sequential star points 6,7,8 , LFD:Scribe3
f58v: Q8 ; 1 star at top, 6 pointed, LFD:Scribe3
f66r: Q8 ; column of letters and words {der mus del page}, LFD:Scribe5
f76r: Q13 ; text only , [column of letters] , LFD:Scribe2
fRos: Q14 ; Rosette, LFD tentatively ascribes to Scribe4
f85r1: Q14 ; text only, LFD:Scribe2
f86v6: Q14 ; text only, LFD:Scribe2
f86v5: Q14 ; text only, LFD:Scribe2
f86v3: Q14 -(not all text), unfinished T-O map, LFD:Scribe2
then look for patterns and links between those sections.
Here is my incomplete and provisional attempt:
.f1r - pretty certain to be the Introductory page.
.f66r - most likely part of balneo , entire Quire seems to be a single unit.
.fRos, f85r1, f86v6, 86v5, f86v3 - I would call Quire14 a single unit , a section in its own right.
Leaving these as the most problematic to categorize:
f57v, f58r, f58v, f66r.
Any suggestions as to how to classify/categorize these unruly pages would be welcome.
RenegadeHealer > 15-07-2020, 09:19 PM
(14-07-2020, 05:09 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The idea is that there are good reasons to assume that "r" and "v" were written consecutively and they often appear to share similar illustrations, dialects and the same scribe. Of course there is no guarantee that this measure is meaningful: I used it just because it seems to make sense to me and it is simple to check.
Linda > 16-07-2020, 04:25 AM
-JKP- > 16-07-2020, 05:23 AM
Linda Wrote:Sometimes i think maybe some missing pages aren't missing at all, and the page numbering anomalies are clues to the restitution of the original layout. Or maybe just evidence of mistakes? Like, let's say it is foldouts that are missing in quire 8, but they forgot to put them there and number them because they were already thereafter given new places in other quires by mistake, while the placeholder note had yet been left behind to make room for the 12 pages, likely because they were foldouts, and thus needed some extra attention upon binding.
MarcoP > 16-07-2020, 06:15 AM
(15-07-2020, 09:19 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If there is a historical factor I'm not considering which meant that 1v would typically be written immediately after finishing 1r, please correct me.
DONJCH > 16-07-2020, 07:08 AM
(15-07-2020, 09:19 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.counts of 17 — a relatively unusual number — are a prominent feature of both.Wait, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has 15 vords in the left column - where is the count of 17? Is it the column of glyphs (2x17)?
LisaFaginDavis > 16-07-2020, 08:31 PM
RobGea > 26-07-2020, 03:40 PM
(15-07-2020, 01:21 PM)LisaFaginDavis Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think it isn't possible to draw conclusions about the original order of leaves or composition of quires, because so many leaves are missing. We have no idea what kind of leaves ff. 59-64 were, for example, or which scribe wrote them.
RobGea > 26-07-2020, 04:33 PM
-JKP- > 27-07-2020, 01:45 AM