ReneZ > 26-06-2020, 01:41 PM
(26-06-2020, 11:56 AM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I missed that one, but all the better.
Quote:The Voynich is a truly interdisciplinary object. To solve it convincingly will require a combination of skills that are unlikely to have been mastered by a single person.
What one might argue about is that you should only let experts work on the individual areas. In my opinion, a layman who has been working on a topic for years can just as well cooperate. One should not build a front between scholars and laymen ( linguists, historians, cryptologists, etc. against "non-experts" ).
ReneZ > 26-06-2020, 01:59 PM
(26-06-2020, 07:12 AM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The idea that today someone is studying the Voynich manuscript without knowing of past efforts is therefore unreasonable.
Mark Knowles > 26-06-2020, 02:18 PM
(26-06-2020, 11:52 AM)LisaFaginDavis Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm not going to debate this particular article further, as it wasn't intended to make an argument about the contents of the VMS at all, just to introduce readers to the manuscript and some of the complexities involved in working with it.
Koen G > 26-06-2020, 02:26 PM
Torsten > 26-06-2020, 02:30 PM
(26-06-2020, 01:59 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(26-06-2020, 07:12 AM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The idea that today someone is studying the Voynich manuscript without knowing of past efforts is therefore unreasonable.
Unfortunately, reality seems to be the opposite, as unreasonable as it may seem.
The majority of people that have proposed solutions in the past few years are unaware of the important statistical properties of the text, and of past research in general.
I have read numerous papers (not to mention blog posts) where it was stated that this was done in order to be able to have a 'fresh look' (or some similar terminology).
For scientific publications, knowledge of relevant past work in the area is an absolute prerequisite.
Torsten > 26-06-2020, 02:41 PM
(26-06-2020, 02:26 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Lisa is well respected in her field, by her peers. If she says there are multiple scribes, I trust her judgement (and the possible implications).
Mark Knowles > 26-06-2020, 02:53 PM
(26-06-2020, 02:41 PM)Torsten Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(26-06-2020, 02:26 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Lisa is well respected in her field, by her peers. If she says there are multiple scribes, I trust her judgement (and the possible implications).
You shouldn't trust in results because someone is an expert. You should trust in results since you find the evidence compelling.
ReneZ > 26-06-2020, 03:04 PM
DONJCH > 26-06-2020, 04:25 PM
Torsten > 26-06-2020, 09:03 PM