ReneZ > 23-06-2020, 08:37 PM
bi3mw > 24-06-2020, 12:20 AM
Stephen Carlson > 24-06-2020, 01:34 AM
(23-06-2020, 04:50 PM)Alin_J Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is also not unusual, at least not for non-English works... I found that the Swedish novel Inferno by August Strindberg has a number of 4.38 (total number of words about 46 000).What's this ratio of? hapaxes or word types?
(23-06-2020, 08:37 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thanks to RobGea for the post with verifiable numbers.The Pliny reference is very interesting and good potential point of comparison, but Latin is a heavily inflected language, which increases the number of unique words. As far as I know, all attempts to find inflection in Voynichese have resulted in failure however.
It confirms that, at least for this particular statistic, the Voynich MS is within the range of existing reference texts.
Alin_J > 24-06-2020, 04:48 AM
(24-06-2020, 01:34 AM)Stephen Carlson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:This is also not unusual, at least not for non-English works... I found that the Swedish novel Inferno by August Strindberg has a number of 4.38 (total number of words about 46 000).What's this ratio of? hapaxes or word types?
Stephen Carlson > 24-06-2020, 05:31 AM
(24-06-2020, 04:48 AM)Alin_J Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thanks. Was this done on the French original or the English translation?(24-06-2020, 01:34 AM)Stephen Carlson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:This is also not unusual, at least not for non-English works... I found that the Swedish novel Inferno by August Strindberg has a number of 4.38 (total number of words about 46 000).What's this ratio of? hapaxes or word types?
Not hapaxes. This is just the ratio of total number of words to word-types (in other words the inverse of Type-Token Ratio).
Alin_J > 24-06-2020, 05:41 AM
(24-06-2020, 05:31 AM)Stephen Carlson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(24-06-2020, 04:48 AM)Alin_J Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thanks. Was this done on the French original or the English translation?(24-06-2020, 01:34 AM)Stephen Carlson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Quote:This is also not unusual, at least not for non-English works... I found that the Swedish novel Inferno by August Strindberg has a number of 4.38 (total number of words about 46 000).What's this ratio of? hapaxes or word types?
Not hapaxes. This is just the ratio of total number of words to word-types (in other words the inverse of Type-Token Ratio).
Stephen Carlson > 24-06-2020, 07:34 AM
(24-06-2020, 05:41 AM)Alin_J Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Not the French original, but the Swedish translation (by Eugène Fahlstedt).OK, found a copy You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. I'm a bit surprised at the statistic, however, since my Swedish is at the B2 level and yet I can read most of the text in the first couple of pages (making allowances for the older orthography). I wonder if the French and English versions have similar stats?
Emma May Smith > 24-06-2020, 09:10 AM
(24-06-2020, 01:34 AM)Stephen Carlson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(23-06-2020, 08:37 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thanks to RobGea for the post with verifiable numbers.The Pliny reference is very interesting and good potential point of comparison, but Latin is a heavily inflected language, which increases the number of unique words. As far as I know, all attempts to find inflection in Voynichese have resulted in failure however.
It confirms that, at least for this particular statistic, the Voynich MS is within the range of existing reference texts.
ReneZ > 24-06-2020, 12:43 PM
Alin_J > 24-06-2020, 03:50 PM
(24-06-2020, 07:34 AM)Stephen Carlson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(24-06-2020, 05:41 AM)Alin_J Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Not the French original, but the Swedish translation (by Eugène Fahlstedt).OK, found a copy You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. I'm a bit surprised at the statistic, however, since my Swedish is at the B2 level and yet I can read most of the text in the first couple of pages (making allowances for the older orthography). I wonder if the French and English versions have similar stats?