R. Sale > 23-06-2020, 09:34 PM
Koen G > 23-06-2020, 11:30 PM
R. Sale > 24-06-2020, 03:47 AM
DONJCH > 24-06-2020, 03:55 AM
(23-06-2020, 08:58 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I also don't want to exclude the possibility that the VM plays both the fish and mermaid card at the same time.Yes, I'm right with you on the multiple tracks, I begin to think that this is a deliberate ploy by the artist, perhaps for education and entertainment. "How many layers can I pack in here?"
davidjackson > 24-06-2020, 06:52 AM
R. Sale > 24-06-2020, 07:39 PM
Linda > 24-06-2020, 07:45 PM
(24-06-2020, 06:52 AM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think we're taking this out of context (hah!)
You have to look at the sequence of images, not each one individually!
Starting from bottom right to top it's clearly an ascent of women story.
We have the beasts at the pond, representing the base populace, wallowing.
Then that woman emerges into the ascendent, casting off her animal over skin and becoming fully human.
Then above her we see several layers of women representing the different levels that humanity can aspire to.
It's a clear morality story.
Linda > 24-06-2020, 08:08 PM
(23-06-2020, 06:25 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(23-06-2020, 05:56 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Given these conditions at the time of its creation, the primary interpretation of the illustration of Harley 334 f. 57 has to be a representation of Melusine, because that was the semiotic environment of that time and location.
Hello R. Sale,
No, it does not have to be Mélusine. The text to the right says something about the sea ("mer") and it is a typical depiction of the sea with perfectly normal fish and mermaids. EDIT: it starts with "En la mer dynde" (in the sea of India) - old name of the Arabian sea - then I can't read much, something about exotic fish it seems... the title is "de poissons dynde" (about the fish of India).
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Similar legends existed elsewhere than Lusignan (Poitou), especially "fish-tail" variants of the story, the dragon-tail lady of Lusignan popularized by Jean d'Arras being a late avatar of much older and widespread legends. Wikipedia has a simplified and non-exhausitive map (see locations in the text):
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davidjackson > 24-06-2020, 08:38 PM
Koen G > 24-06-2020, 10:10 PM