Anton > 06-08-2020, 12:54 PM
-JKP- > 06-08-2020, 12:59 PM
Scarecrow > 14-09-2020, 01:30 PM
(05-08-2020, 08:04 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.f89r2 has daiin thrice in a row.
RenegadeHealer > 14-09-2020, 03:32 PM
(05-08-2020, 09:57 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I feel fairly strongly that "ain" should be analyzed without the "d" because there are many glyphs preceding the "ain" sequence. Get a grasp of "ain" first and then look at the letters in front, but not only the "d", the other ones too, so the pattern can be understood in context.
Anton > 14-09-2020, 11:25 PM
Aga Tentakulus > 15-09-2020, 12:18 AM
Scarecrow > 15-09-2020, 06:51 AM
Anton > 15-09-2020, 04:38 PM
(15-09-2020, 06:51 AM)Scarecrow Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank you @Anton, do you mean I should move my remark there?
geoffreycaveney > 15-09-2020, 08:44 PM
(14-09-2020, 01:30 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(05-08-2020, 08:04 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.f89r2 has daiin thrice in a row.
I just red few articles from a great Finnish philosopher, and found two sentences that come close to this. Maybe it can give food for thoughts.
"Ajattelun ajattelun ajattelu" and "ajatuksen ajatuksen ajatus"
Those two are prefect and regular, albeit funny, Finnish language sentences.
Meaning freely translated something like "thinking thinking of thinking" and "thought of thought of a thought".
It is possible same pattern to generate many other three or possibly even four word constructs.
Just for the interest.
geoffreycaveney > 15-09-2020, 09:22 PM
(14-09-2020, 03:32 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(05-08-2020, 09:57 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I feel fairly strongly that "ain" should be analyzed without the "d" because there are many glyphs preceding the "ain" sequence. Get a grasp of "ain" first and then look at the letters in front, but not only the "d", the other ones too, so the pattern can be understood in context.
I must say, it was pretty thrilling to read Koen's You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. this summer about his experiment with ngrams, where one of the end results was some solid support for each in the series "a + 0~3i + line glyph" being one grapheme. I've been waiting for an experiment like that identifies ngrams with a high likelihood of being single graphemes ever since I read your old blog post about Janus pairs. I smell a breakthrough. I digress.
If indeed the VMs is an encoding of a natural written language plaintext, and if indeed "aiin" is one letter, that would make "daiin" likely to represent a two-letter word or abbreviation. It might be worthwhile to ask ourselves what common two-letter words or abbreviations, in any of the written languages of the time and place of the VMs's creation, are not uncommonly (but not usually) found reduplicated in written texts? "Etc.", comes immediately to mind, though it's three letters. But I give this only as an example of the type of pattern to look for. This is making a lot of assumptions, though, not least of which is that the VMs author spelled and/or abbreviated words (prior to and apart from encrypting them) in a known standard way.