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The gallows intrusion, the baseline jumps and multipass
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RE: The gallows intrusion, the baseline jumps and multipass
Anton > 10-12-2021, 09:45 PM
(10-12-2021, 02:07 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That led me to wonder whether the "real" conclusion to the paragraph might have been added in above it -- implying in turn that there had been insufficient space left for it at the bottom, which would have been the case if the first line of the following paragraph had already been written.
Looking back on it, I have no fresh ideas and can only say once again that it's really a desperate mess. The addition above is obviously not a simple continuation of the paragraph-last line - that because the last line does not stretch to the right margin. Whoever wished just to continue the line, would firstly use the available line-space to its full extent, and only then proceed with adding the remainder atop the whole paragraph. The fact that there is room left after the ot (strange as the latter is, but anyway) suggests that this is the intended ending of this line. Subsequently, what's added on the top may have been the intended fourth line which it was impossible to fit under line 3 because the next paragraph was indeed already in place when the paragraph in question was being put down.
However, the close look at the baseline reveals that its initial direction abrupts with polaiin in line 1, with otcheey in line 2, and with cheedy in line 3. The vords that follow in each of the three lines have their baseline jumps all at the same angle, suggesting that this is a separate block of text included after the main (left) block of text was written.
(10-12-2021, 03:34 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm interested in the vord in the middle that seems to begin [choi].
Probably he began writing an r, then checked himself that the ascender aligns with the descender of the l, and in order to avoid that, he added the awkward curl - that which would have been the ascender of an r under normal conditions - to the right. Note that without the final loop the character looks pretty much like a normal r. Then for some reason the necessity arose to correct r into m. So one type of tail was just overwritten with another.
But this idea does not explain "overlapping the descending stroke in such a problematic way", as you put it. Maybe a later emendation acts here - the "problematic" section is slightly darker in colour than the i stroke.
And yes, good point about -rum. -
RE: The gallows intrusion, the baseline jumps and multipass
Anton > 10-12-2021, 09:58 PM
(10-12-2021, 03:34 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm sorry I didn't see your writing about L-coordinates and P-coordinates earlier, since I'd have liked to acknowledge it as prior work in my posts about "rightwardness" and "downwardness."
No pb. In fact it was a tool serving my (failed) attempt to trace the structure of narration. See You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., Section 13. -
RE: The gallows intrusion
Jorge_Stolfi > 11 hours ago
(05-05-2020, 12:11 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Here I provide my tentative interpretation of the multipass nature of a select paragraph from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. based on the changes in baseline trends.
I thnk that the apparent breaks in the baselines are an artifact of (unconscious) attempt to fit straight lines to them.
In the picture below, I have tried to trace the actual baselines character by character:
It seems that the baselines are quite irregular, with shifts within words about as big as those between words.
To me the pattern suggests that the scribe just tried to write each word W1 so that the distance between its baseline B1 and the baseline B2 of the words W2 just above W1 was about the same as that between B2 and the baseline B3 of the words W3 just above W2. But this strategy resulted in the baseline spacing being generally smaller on the left side of that parag than on the right side, so that the baselines became increasingly crooked.
When he got to line 8 he realized the problem, so he tried to correct it by opening up the lines on the left side, until the baselines were more or less straight again.
All the best, --stolfi