-JKP- > 05-04-2020, 04:53 PM
R. Sale > 05-04-2020, 08:31 PM
Stephen Carlson > 06-04-2020, 05:55 AM
(04-04-2020, 06:54 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.2. Greek Abbreviation Symbol. The staircase symbol with a dot is a rare character in the VMS. It is a shape-mate for the Greek abbreviation for "atto". I've never seen this shape in a Latin-character manuscript and Latin abbreviations don't usually have this shape. I've only seen it in charts of Greek abbreviations, but there are a few abbreviations in Greek that are based on this general idea of a staircase+dot, so it might be a specific class of abbreviation.What is "atto" (it's not a Greek word I'm familiar with or can find in a lexicon) and what's your source for this?
-JKP- > 06-04-2020, 07:52 AM
-JKP- > 06-04-2020, 08:26 AM
bi3mw > 06-04-2020, 09:32 AM
(05-04-2020, 04:53 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I often think of Llullian diagrams when I look at the VMS.I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who feels this way. I would even say that the method of "proof of God" (Ars Brevis / Ars Magna) might have been applied in a similar way as later in the VMS. This would mean, of course, that without an "instruction book" one would not get anywhere.
Stephen Carlson > 06-04-2020, 10:06 AM
-JKP- > 06-04-2020, 11:28 AM
Stephen Carlson Wrote:Some of the forms you cite are less common and tend to be used more in paratext settings, like titles, subscriptions, and marginal notes.
Mark Knowles > 07-04-2020, 12:43 PM
(05-04-2020, 10:05 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(05-04-2020, 08:28 AM)DONJCH Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So you are saying that the VM could be a jest, a stunt, a piece of medieval performance art?
This is actually a possibility I often consider, though I prefer "intellectual exercise". Both in the script and the images, we see touching points with the dominant culture of the time, but they have been employed in a disorienting way. This is done very consistently over many pages.
We know that at least five people worked on this thing, so there was also some group component involved, whatever the relationship between these people was. Assuming none of the scribes died, there was an audience of at least four.
I don't know if this is the case, but it's one of the things I keep in mind. The driving force may have been the concept itself rather than secrecy.
-JKP- > 07-04-2020, 04:11 PM