arca_libraria > 24-03-2020, 08:32 PM
Koen G > 24-03-2020, 10:28 PM
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arca_libraria > 24-03-2020, 11:16 PM
(24-03-2020, 10:28 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(24-03-2020, 08:32 PM)arca_libraria Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Well found! That's one of the two manuscripts that started this thread, but I hadn't looked at its other images. Here is the Jardin des vertus image:
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So both the "seven rivers with women" and "vice with chain" are part of the same manuscript tradition. The plot thickens...
R. Sale > 24-03-2020, 11:44 PM
Koen G > 25-03-2020, 12:03 AM
arca_libraria > 25-03-2020, 12:37 AM
(25-03-2020, 12:03 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There's also the matter why a sun should be in.the centre of the four figures.
Koen G > 25-03-2020, 01:10 AM
-JKP- > 25-03-2020, 01:24 AM
(25-03-2020, 12:37 AM)arca_libraria Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Exactly. I know there are several problems with my suggestion that the VMS image might be related to or an interpretation of the images of "luxuria" in medieval treatises on virtues and vices.
I liked JKP's suggestion that we're looking top-down at a fountain with a sun-dial in the centre, hence the sun in the middle of the illustration, but there's still a lot that doesn't work or needs additional support to make sense of this. I feel like we should be reading the sun and moon pages together, but I'm not sure if any of this can be applied to the moon diagram on the next page.