MarcoP > 28-09-2019, 08:11 AM
(26-09-2019, 02:13 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Marco, was the raw data for this study one of the ingredients for the project you and Emma published earlier this year?
(26-09-2019, 02:13 PM)RenegadeHealer Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I was immediately reminded of Julian Bunn's demonstration that the different plant-delineated text columns on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. show different ink density, suggesting that they were written separately, and thus are true columns functionally and methodologically. Your data here supports the idea that text before and after a plant drawing constitutes two separate lines, not one interrupted line. As someone who has looked at a lot of old manuscripts, how precedented was this style of column composition in medieval manuscripts of the time?
(25-09-2019, 08:06 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When a word encounters an image and the text wants to continue on the other side, there are a few options:
1. the word is split
2. the final complete word before the image is squeezed in (or the scribe takes into account his spacing to make it fit well)
3. the final word before an image is truncated
There are probably more options, but some of those are less likely. For example that an image splits text into various columns like in a newspaper.
You say that words before an image are shorter, while words after an image are the same. This rules out (1), because in that case words after the image would also be shorter.
(26-09-2019, 07:31 PM)Emma May Smith Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The occurrence of [s] alone before a mid-break are interesting in relation to line start patterns. We see an increase at the line start of words beginning [s] which is often followed by [a] or [o]. It would be good to learn is these lone [s] matched up with [o] or [a] on the other side.
If so (and I do not know if it is) it would make an stronger link to line start patterns.
(26-09-2019, 07:31 PM)Emma May Smith Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Likewise, it would be interesting to know the second glyph in words immediately after mid-breaks which start with [y]. Both [yk] and [yt] are line start patterns.
Helmut Winkler > 28-09-2019, 10:17 AM
MarcoP > 30-09-2019, 05:49 PM
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MarcoP > 05-10-2019, 04:37 PM
Emma May Smith > 05-10-2019, 06:53 PM
MarcoP > 06-10-2019, 12:27 PM
(05-10-2019, 06:53 PM)Emma May Smith Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Marco, while you're right that words starting [che, she] or [yk, yt] behave differently after mid-breaks, they still have the same preference. Both [che, she] are less common after mid-breaks and after line breaks, while both [yk, yt] are more common. They're simply not responding to the same degree, though they are showing the same preference. Naturally, it depends on the statistics whether the smaller changes are robust enough to draw evidence from.
(05-10-2019, 06:53 PM)Emma May Smith Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I, too, find the [qo] statistics interesting here. Note that [qo] is much lower after mid-breaks while [ot] is much higher. I know we've discussed in the past the relation between [t] and [k], especially in the presence of [q].
(05-10-2019, 06:53 PM)Emma May Smith Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Interestingly, [sa] is more common after both line breaks and mid-breaks, yet words starting [a] are only missing after line breaks and not mid-breaks. I had thought that [sa] was replacing [a] at the start of lines, yet clearly must rethink this idea.
MarcoP > 24-10-2019, 05:22 PM