R. Sale > 12-09-2019, 11:29 PM
bi3mw > 13-09-2019, 12:42 PM
Mark Knowles > 13-10-2019, 06:28 PM
Koen G > 13-10-2019, 11:55 PM
(13-10-2019, 06:28 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Having just noticed this discussion it does rather make me tear my hair out. The idea that the author didn't just make up their own way of drawings stars, but must have been part of a long tradition of drawings seems like a big assumption.I no longer stand behind what I said back in 2016, when I was new to this whole thing. But what you write right now betrays an equal ignorance of medieval practice. They simply did not invent things.
Mark Knowles > 14-10-2019, 12:48 AM
(13-10-2019, 11:55 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(13-10-2019, 06:28 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Having just noticed this discussion it does rather make me tear my hair out. The idea that the author didn't just make up their own way of drawings stars, but must have been part of a long tradition of drawings seems like a big assumption.I no longer stand behind what I said back in 2016, when I was new to this whole thing. But what you write right now betrays an equal ignorance of medieval practice. They simply did not invent things.
And this way of drawing stars can be traced back at least to the Beatus manuscripts of the 10th century. Then to Hildegard, who relied heavily on the Beati. They really blur the line between flowers and heavenly bodies.
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Koen G > 14-10-2019, 01:04 AM
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R. Sale > 15-10-2019, 10:06 PM
arca_libraria > 15-10-2019, 11:59 PM
(14-10-2019, 12:48 AM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When you say:
"They simply did not invent things."
Then I can only conclude that it is amazing that the wheel of history has moved forward at all.
I would say that medieval people like modern people were highly inventive, why make assumptions about what they were capable of or inclined towards that you wouldn't make of modern people.
Mark Knowles > 16-10-2019, 10:07 PM
(15-10-2019, 11:59 PM)arca_libraria Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(14-10-2019, 12:48 AM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When you say:Yes, sometimes people come up with comparisons that are not particularly strong, or that others might reject entirely, but that's why this place exists so we can all start a thread with our favourite weird fish-people/crossbows/sunflowers drawn from only the most obscure of central European archives for the delight/derision of the rest of the forum.
"They simply did not invent things."
Then I can only conclude that it is amazing that the wheel of history has moved forward at all.
I would say that medieval people like modern people were highly inventive, why make assumptions about what they were capable of or inclined towards that you wouldn't make of modern people.