Bernd > 08-02-2023, 01:59 AM
MarcoP > 08-02-2023, 09:25 AM
(08-02-2023, 01:59 AM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I find it very,very hard to believe it's possible to arbitrarily write a text with properties that generate such perfect curves, neither deliberately in a manuscript with meaning nor as pseudorandom nonsense.
Koen G > 08-02-2023, 10:53 AM
MarcoP > 08-02-2023, 07:40 PM
(08-02-2023, 10:53 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Voynichese distributes its vocabulary as if it were drawn from a bag, at least it does so more than regular texts.
Koen G > 08-02-2023, 08:02 PM
nablator > 09-02-2023, 02:41 PM
(08-02-2023, 07:40 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Voynichese favours reduplication in comparison to shuffling, while actual texts have less reduplication than their shuffled counterpart.
MarcoP > 10-02-2023, 04:03 PM
Timm&Schinner' Wrote:The closer two words are (with respect to their edit distance), the more likely these words also can be found written in close vicinity (i.e. on the same page).
Addsamuels > 14-02-2023, 10:42 PM
(03-02-2023, 08:33 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....in natural language we won't write "the the", but there are so many of them in the text that random shuffling will put some of them next to each other.In certain languages like French and German, duplication of some words are common.
Koen G > 14-02-2023, 10:59 PM
Searcher > 15-02-2023, 08:36 AM
(14-02-2023, 10:59 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yeah that's certainly true, in my native Dutch you could grammatically do three, like: "Ik dacht dat dat dat kind was." (I thought that it was that child). However, two remarks with this: one is that it feels kind of ugly and writers will avoid overusing these structures. Two, even in cases where this is not the case, like in the French "nous nous" example, texts will still contain fewer of such reduplications than Voynichese and shuffled texts do.Recently, I wrote a blogpost about word repetitions in the VMs text. I suppose they can be fake repetitions, just garbage.