-JKP- > 07-04-2018, 08:55 PM
(07-04-2018, 06:39 PM)Diane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, it does look like the 'p' is some Latin manuscripts. And like the letter tsade and others again. Presuming it must be German has led to a lot of prematurely applied limits to investigation, imo.
VViews > 08-04-2018, 01:42 PM
(07-04-2018, 03:27 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Would anyone really spontaneously classify the color of this root as red or even reddish? I could understand brown, yellow, gold or light beige. That gives plenty of possible color terms to try, but red seems like a stretch.
Koen G > 08-04-2018, 02:43 PM
Anton > 08-04-2018, 03:47 PM
MarcoP > 08-04-2018, 03:51 PM
(08-04-2018, 01:42 PM)VViews Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.IIRC there was some consensus here that these letters in the plants are likely to be color annotations.
The fact that this one, like several others, does not correspond to the actual color used reinforces my opinion that the colors were added by someone who had little if any understanding of the manuscript's text nor a very in-depth understanding of paint preparation or illumination practices, and possibly also poor/undeveloped/declining fine motor skills.
29v is a great example of the contrasting levels of skill between the person who drew the plant and the person who added the colors.
The plant itself is actually drawn with attention to detail. However the rendering of the details of the leaves' texture is almost totally ruined by the awfully sloppy paint job.
In the flower part up top, the painter just manages to stay within the lines of simple large red dots. In the roots and stalk, the yellow is uneven and streaky.
So IMO, the fact that the paint color doesn't correspond to the "r" annotation is not a problem: it just adds weight to the scenario I describe above.
As I've stated before, in analyzing the Voynich I strongly believe we are better off just ignoring the paint colors completely.
Alain Touwaide (translation mine) Wrote:Voynich ms illustrations contain instructions about the colors to be applied to pen drawings, according to the different parts of plants. Such instructions mention the name of the color to be applied (Voynich f4r), but in German, a peculiar fact that does not seem to be compatible with a Northern Italian origin of the manuscript.
Koen G > 08-04-2018, 08:13 PM
VViews > 08-04-2018, 10:23 PM
Hubert Dale > 09-04-2018, 10:07 AM
MarcoP > 09-04-2018, 11:13 AM
ReneZ > 09-04-2018, 12:01 PM