MarcoP > 30-03-2018, 12:54 PM
(30-03-2018, 12:21 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Regarding Marco's suggestion that daiin is a candidate for "and" - I disagree. According to Job's tool, there are eleven folios ending with daiin, and I can't imagine a functional block of text ending with "and", unless the language has some weird positional rule for placing "and" after the words that it connects.
Quote:Some languages use a clitic to express 'and'. Arabic, Hebrew, even Latin do this.
doranchak > 30-03-2018, 01:01 PM
(30-03-2018, 12:21 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Last but not least, one should mind the possibility of shuffling. Indeed, there are indications that the text might have been put down in several passes, which, among other things, suggests shuffling.
Anton > 30-03-2018, 01:09 PM
(30-03-2018, 12:54 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As Emma wrote You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.:
Quote:Some languages use a clitic to express 'and'. Arabic, Hebrew, even Latin do this.
Her reference is to the Latin -que, which indeed appears "after the words that it connects" - I have never seen it written as a separate word, so the relevance of this example is limited in this context.
I am not aware of languages that have a word-end conjunction together with reduplication, but my linguistic knowledge is very limited.
Anton > 30-03-2018, 01:19 PM
(30-03-2018, 01:01 PM)doranchak Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(30-03-2018, 12:21 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Last but not least, one should mind the possibility of shuffling. Indeed, there are indications that the text might have been put down in several passes, which, among other things, suggests shuffling.
Is there a thread here or link with more info about that? I haven't seen that before (I'm relatively new to Voynich studies).
Helmut Winkler > 30-03-2018, 04:20 PM
ReneZ > 30-03-2018, 08:57 PM
MarcoP > 30-03-2018, 09:23 PM
(30-03-2018, 08:57 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Marco, this is very interesting.
I haven't yet have time to fully digest it, but I have an initial question:
how did you compute the 'expected' occurences of X as part of 'X Y X Z'?
Intuitively, for the more frequent cases of X, the actual number should clearly exceed the statistically expected number, but this intuition could be wrong.
Anton > 30-03-2018, 09:54 PM
Anton > 30-03-2018, 10:05 PM
davidjackson > 30-03-2018, 10:49 PM