-JKP- > 10-03-2018, 03:04 AM
VViews > 10-03-2018, 12:21 PM
-JKP- > 10-03-2018, 03:30 PM
(10-03-2018, 12:21 PM)VViews Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Unless they were copying a text they didn't understand in the first place, but why bother to do that?
MarcoP, you bring up the example of tones in Mandarin, which leads me to ask an OT question: are there medieval examples of Mandarin or other Asian languages transcribed using a roman alphabet? From what I understand the earliest are from the late 16th century, but I'm curious to know if there are earlier ones.
Anton > 10-03-2018, 05:15 PM
(09-03-2018, 10:28 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And finally, there is the in my opinion real possibility that Voynichese somewhat simplifies the spoken form of the language. This, again, increases the chances for homonymy.
Just to say, based on these data I don't think we can conclude that "labels are not object identifications". Maybe some labels are not, but mere homonymy is not enough to deduce this.
Koen G > 10-03-2018, 06:20 PM
Wladimir D > 10-03-2018, 07:06 PM
(10-03-2018, 05:15 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Moreover, there's more than just this (pseudo)-homonymy. For example, if I remember correctly, Wladimir demonstrated that pharma plant labels do not occur in the respective plants' botanical folios.
-JKP- > 11-03-2018, 03:19 AM
(10-03-2018, 05:15 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.A much more straightforward hypothesis, which really does not need any superfluous explanations, is just that labels are not IDs.
Antonio García Jiménez > 25-05-2018, 05:29 PM