Ahmet Ardıç > 07-04-2022, 09:01 PM
(07-04-2022, 06:11 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(07-04-2022, 01:30 AM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ahmet:
leaving aside the words, which I am not qualified to comment upon, were modern European-style Arabic numerals in common usage in 15th century Turkish?
Because they don't seem to be used in the classical Ottoman script, which is Arabic based.
[I would question this interpretation also. Not only the use of Arabic numerals in 15th C. Turkish texts, but also the use of Arabic numerals in the VMs vords. Is this the only example of a numeral "2" in the VMs? And what about any of the other numerals "3", "4", "5", etc.?
Edit: Examples used in vords, not in page numbers.]
Ahmet Ardıç > 07-04-2022, 09:12 PM
(07-04-2022, 06:59 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[I would be more interested to know why this particular plant has a numbering. f49v.]
Ahmet Ardıç > 11-04-2022, 01:34 PM
Ruby Novacna > 11-04-2022, 01:43 PM
(11-04-2022, 01:34 PM)Ahmet Ardıç Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.we show all the words we mentioned by referencing their pages in real dictionariesTo make it easier for your readers to understand, you can also indicate the location of the word being examined, using the EVA transcription.
Ahmet Ardıç > 11-04-2022, 02:01 PM
(11-04-2022, 01:43 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(11-04-2022, 01:34 PM)Ahmet Ardıç Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.we show all the words we mentioned by referencing their pages in real dictionaries[To make it easier for your readers to understand, you can also indicate the location of the word being examined, using the EVA transcription.]
Ruby Novacna > 11-04-2022, 03:35 PM
(11-04-2022, 02:01 PM)Ahmet Ardıç Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You can see the content in detail on these pagesAhmet, unfortunately I only see images and pdf files. The advantages of the EVA transcript are primarily its format, txt, and its availability. Is your transcription in the right format and available to Voynich researchers?
davidjackson > 11-04-2022, 04:34 PM
Ahmet Ardıç > 12-04-2022, 02:10 PM
(11-04-2022, 04:34 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[Not to be rude Ahmet, but you've lost me.
I called them Arabic numerals because that is the English name for the ten decimal digits written in the form 0123456789.
I called them modern European style because the symbol you discussed (2) is graphed in a modern European style.
Arabian, Persian, tamil, Hindu all use the same characters but graph them in a different way.
The symbol for 2 was just starting to replace the old symbol in the middle of the 15th century in Europe. Before then the digits were written differently. This has been amply discussed elsewhere.
So my question remains - would a Turkish writer, who is not using the Latin alphabet, have known the symbol for 2 in this fashion and used it this way? If 2, why not 4,6,7?
This image shows how the digits were written old style in French Manuscripts from c. 700 to c1500]
Ahmet Ardıç > 12-04-2022, 02:15 PM
(11-04-2022, 03:35 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(11-04-2022, 02:01 PM)Ahmet Ardıç Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You can see the content in detail on these pages[Ahmet, unfortunately I only see images and pdf files. The advantages of the EVA transcript are primarily its format, txt, and its availability. Is your transcription in the right format and available to Voynich researchers?
Regarding my first comment, I have not seen any indication of the position of the word presented in the text, so this is not a discussion about transcripts, but about how to present one's results.]
Ruby Novacna > 12-04-2022, 02:29 PM
(12-04-2022, 02:15 PM)Ahmet Ardıç Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I don't know if the format is useful or notThank you for your reply.