Helmut Winkler > 08-08-2017, 04:26 PM
(08-08-2017, 12:55 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It occurred to me that the circular leaves resemble coins. I checked for Muenze, Nickel and Geld- in Pritzel; there is quite a number of occurrences, but I failed to locate a good match at a glance. "Muenze" is primarily associated with mint, and the plant does not look like mint at all.
In one English book the name "weasel-snout" is recorded for galeobdolon luteum, but this looks like galeobdolon neither.
Anton > 08-08-2017, 05:07 PM
(08-08-2017, 03:41 PM)Oocephalus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Since Pritzel has been mentioned (and I was the one who originally pointed to that book here in the forum), I should mention that I've now looked at Marzell's five-volume "Wörterbuch der deutschen Pflanzennamen", which Helmut Winkler recommended in another thread. Unfortunately, the preface of that book states that Pritzel's book is full of mistakes, and cannot be used as a reliable reference. This may be because it was edited posthumously, and the editor (Jessen) may have mixed up some notes. So I wouldn't trust anything in Pritzel's book unless it is confirmed by another source. Fortunately, the university library here has Marzell's book, I'll look if I can find anything relevant next time I'm there.
-JKP- > 08-08-2017, 06:34 PM
(08-08-2017, 12:54 PM)VViews Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Apologies as this may be veering into OT territory, but regarding the strangeness/plausibility of composites, let's not forget the oak&ivy situation in other manuscripts which has been discussed on the forum.
This sort of thing did happen, although it may not be a frequent phenomenon.
Koen G > 08-08-2017, 07:14 PM
-JKP- > 08-08-2017, 07:29 PM
Koen G > 08-08-2017, 08:19 PM
-JKP- > 08-08-2017, 09:36 PM
(08-08-2017, 08:19 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.JKP: I agree that the circular things can be fruits, which would mean that the leaves have been omitted. In this case, the image is not a botanical representation but rather highlights certain parts. According to the aptly titled You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. however, the berries are very poisonous.
Just browsing the wiki, it seems that asparagus was a highly demanded import product in antiquity, but fell out of taste in the middle ages. There's also still the problem of the flowers.
Lavandula stoechas still offers the closest resemblance to the flower, in my opinion. Apparently, stoechas/sticados was considered a separate plant from lavandula before modern times. But that still doesn't explain the leaves/fruits...
-JKP- > 08-08-2017, 10:26 PM
-JKP- > 09-08-2017, 12:22 AM
VViews > 09-08-2017, 05:43 AM