16-06-2026, 01:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 16-06-2026, 01:15 PM by Stefan Wirtz_2.)
(16-06-2026, 02:58 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I believe that every ending ir is a rather common error by the Scribe, caused by him mis-reading an in in the Author's sloppy handwriting as r. (But not every r is such a "quillo"!)
No, I don't do that.
Claiming that one of the most common combinations is just a steady error while trying to write an even more common combination?
That would be an assumption I can't follow.
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(16-06-2026, 02:58 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In my view a single e is a modifier that can follow k, t, Ch, Sh, ee, CTh, CKh, CPh, and CFh (but not p and f or any other letter), turning those nine letters into nine additional ones: ke, te, Che, She, eee, CThe, etc. [..]
I don't have a concept of "modifiers" in an alphabet at this moment. Could be possible, or just not.
In my view, e is following c to --> ce, it also sets ee and eee. At least eee will have another meaning than just 3x e, because we do not really have a lingual understanding for 3times of a single letter.
e (or ce!) surrounds the gallows, and I think something like iFi ist just an unprecise writing of eFe, so I took such combinations not into table.
But nothing more for me.
(16-06-2026, 02:58 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.On the other hand I believe that p and f are not distinct letters, but only ornate versions of other letters or digraphs -- sort of like our capital letters, but used in rather different ways. [..]
The 4x17 sequence where only p and f are disturbing the perfect order, is tempting to dump the difference between both gallows. I wouldn't do that, both versions occur many times in texts, even together within same lines. Such effort to write 1 character in different ways...?
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(16-06-2026, 02:58 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And m is a Scribal abbreviation for iin (and maybe for in too).
Not the slightest hint anywhere for that understanding, isn't it?
(16-06-2026, 02:58 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And b, u, g are not distinct letters, but merely malformed versions of other letters. Ditto for Ih,IKh etc, and any other i that is not in an in or iin or iiin.
Would agree for b being just an n, and u being one of the very few real typos in text.
But scribe(s) made too much effort to distinct between m and g, like here:
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Completely different breed of letters, from one and the same scribe.
We see g quite often, and clearly expressed by writing -- that is nothing like m at all...

