11-04-2026, 11:21 AM
(11-04-2026, 08:52 AM)quimqu wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(11-04-2026, 02:46 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I see that you are taking seriously the theory by Thorsten & Timm that the VMS text was generated by some complicated random process with some kind of feedback ("copy and mutate").
Hello Jorge,
not really. This is a sort of process that lead me to this kind of model, that I don't think it might be the real thing, but that we can interpolate like:
- The scribe writes line by line with local context in mind
- Words are chosen to resemble nearby words
- Similar forms tend to cluster together
- New words can be created by small variations of existing ones
- Word choice is constrained by position in the line or paragraph
- The process favors consistency over long-range structure
- The underlying source of words is unknown (bag of words, language, or other)
The thing is that I started detecting burst and then I tried some kind of model that explains the text features summarized in this You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
So I am not getting into how the words are created, but I intend to understand the structure of them. How they are positioned in the text. And what I saw is that depending on the position, some families of words tend to appear more than others, for example, as they seem to depend on the local context. Again, this can be also some feature of lenguages, under my understanding. Also, I don't claim that the generated text is Voynichese; it is just a simmulation.
Note that points 2, 3, 4 and 7 might be just results of what is written, but I am not telling that it is a random generation or gibberish. What it really can say, according to the numbers, is that there is some sort of positional an contextual constraint, but again, this could be a feature of a language, who knows?
That's the point though. It's just a simulation and there are a seemingly infinite number of simulations. None of which gets you any closer to finding meaning. Your next step will be to look at what the seed might be, and you'll consider plain text, then different kinds of ciphered texts, and eventually conclude that all of them work but none of them quite works the way it should if it were the actual answer....

