04-04-2026, 11:12 AM
I think they're a good match, especially the first one from San Marco in Venice. It's from the South cupola, west narthex and dated 1215-35.
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But It's unlikely the VM artist copied this, not a lot of detail to see from the ground. I guess the source must be Byzantine? It could be interesting to find more examples in manuscripts. Regarding the labels - 2 possibilities. Either the source had the stars labeled (unlikely), or the VM artist did. Regarding context - I am increasingly under the impression that the VM artist adapted images he came across and found interesting to his own needs. This does not mean they need to have a similar context, much like toady's stock images that might be used in a multitude of situations. So even finding the exact source of a VM image might not tell us a lot about what it is actually supposed to be about.
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But It's unlikely the VM artist copied this, not a lot of detail to see from the ground. I guess the source must be Byzantine? It could be interesting to find more examples in manuscripts. Regarding the labels - 2 possibilities. Either the source had the stars labeled (unlikely), or the VM artist did. Regarding context - I am increasingly under the impression that the VM artist adapted images he came across and found interesting to his own needs. This does not mean they need to have a similar context, much like toady's stock images that might be used in a multitude of situations. So even finding the exact source of a VM image might not tell us a lot about what it is actually supposed to be about.

