Repetition of words
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(15-03-2026, 06:20 PM)Grove wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The Mandarin neutral tone is a toneless utterance. The ‘word’ ma has five meanings dependent on tone. Mother, hemp, horse, curse, question-mark are the five meanings.

Ni3 hao3 means hello but Ni3 hao3 ma means How are you?

Inded, my guess was quite wrong: it seems that the Madarin language uses only ~1300 distinct syllables, which are split roughly evenly among the four main tones (from ~250 of tone 2 to ~350 of tone 3).  IIUC, the neutral tone syllables with distinct meaning add a couple hundred to that total.

So the ~1270 count in that sample actually is surprisingly high. 

Quote:And I believe all words in Japanese ‘could’ be written with the 46 syllables if katakana.

Or hiragana. Yes, but the basic syllables can be modified by a 'voicing" diacritc that turns e.g. "ta" into "da", and a specific diacritic that makes "pa" out of "ha"; and by replacing the vowel to make e.g. "fe" from "fu"+small "e"; or by replacing the vowel with a glide, e.g. "ki"+small "ya" = "kya".  And then by lenghteting the vowel, e.g. "to"+"u" = "tō".  And then doubling the consonant, e.g. small "tsu" + "ka" = "kka".

All the best, --stolfi
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Repetition of words - by Mark Knowles - 24-09-2025, 01:42 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mark Knowles - 24-09-2025, 09:26 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mark Knowles - 24-09-2025, 09:51 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mauro - 25-09-2025, 12:40 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 25-09-2025, 12:52 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mark Knowles - 25-09-2025, 03:18 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mauro - 25-09-2025, 08:46 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 26-09-2025, 07:28 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by anyasophira - 26-09-2025, 07:06 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by quimqu - 26-09-2025, 08:13 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mark Knowles - 26-09-2025, 09:43 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mark Knowles - 26-09-2025, 09:49 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Eiríkur - 26-09-2025, 06:26 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Kaybo - 02-11-2025, 12:47 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 26-09-2025, 10:17 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by quimqu - 26-09-2025, 12:06 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 26-09-2025, 03:13 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mark Knowles - 26-09-2025, 08:27 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Barbrey - 27-09-2025, 12:50 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by oaken - 28-09-2025, 10:01 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by RadioFM - 29-09-2025, 03:34 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by oaken - 01-10-2025, 12:33 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Kaybo - 02-11-2025, 12:54 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by ZamnaMx - 02-11-2025, 01:02 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 02-11-2025, 02:28 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by ZamnaMx - 02-11-2025, 02:33 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by nablator - 02-11-2025, 02:22 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by ZamnaMx - 02-11-2025, 02:29 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by nablator - 02-11-2025, 02:48 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by ZamnaMx - 02-11-2025, 02:57 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by bi3mw - 02-11-2025, 02:55 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mauro - 02-11-2025, 03:02 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by bi3mw - 02-11-2025, 03:08 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by ZamnaMx - 02-11-2025, 03:14 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by bi3mw - 02-11-2025, 03:19 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by nablator - 02-11-2025, 03:50 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Rafal - 02-11-2025, 03:54 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by bi3mw - 02-11-2025, 04:35 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by ZamnaMx - 02-11-2025, 04:08 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Koen G - 02-11-2025, 04:14 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mauro - 02-11-2025, 04:40 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Kaybo - 02-11-2025, 08:30 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mauro - 02-11-2025, 10:08 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 03-11-2025, 08:13 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Mauro - 03-11-2025, 11:08 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Rafal - 03-11-2025, 01:30 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 28-02-2026, 08:03 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by pjburkshire - 27-02-2026, 04:14 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by JoJo_Jost - 27-02-2026, 10:36 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Aga Tentakulus - 27-02-2026, 10:44 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by JoJo_Jost - 27-02-2026, 10:49 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Aga Tentakulus - 27-02-2026, 10:56 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by pjburkshire - 27-02-2026, 11:06 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by nablator - 28-02-2026, 12:38 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Eiríkur - 28-02-2026, 02:02 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by magnesium - 28-02-2026, 01:17 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Fontanellean - 01-03-2026, 06:12 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Eiríkur - 03-03-2026, 09:09 AM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 03-03-2026, 03:35 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Grove - 15-03-2026, 12:22 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 15-03-2026, 12:43 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by nablator - 15-03-2026, 01:30 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 15-03-2026, 05:33 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Grove - 15-03-2026, 01:31 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by nablator - 15-03-2026, 06:13 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 15-03-2026, 08:51 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Grove - 15-03-2026, 06:20 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by Jorge_Stolfi - 15-03-2026, 09:08 PM
RE: Repetition of words - by ReneZ - 15-03-2026, 11:33 PM

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