15-03-2026, 09:08 PM
(15-03-2026, 06:20 PM)Grove wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The Mandarin neutral tone is a toneless utterance. The ‘word’ ma has five meanings dependent on tone. Mother, hemp, horse, curse, question-mark are the five meanings.
Ni3 hao3 means hello but Ni3 hao3 ma means How are you?
Inded, my guess was quite wrong: it seems that the Madarin language uses only ~1300 distinct syllables, which are split roughly evenly among the four main tones (from ~250 of tone 2 to ~350 of tone 3). IIUC, the neutral tone syllables with distinct meaning add a couple hundred to that total.
So the ~1270 count in that sample actually is surprisingly high.
Quote:And I believe all words in Japanese ‘could’ be written with the 46 syllables if katakana.
Or hiragana. Yes, but the basic syllables can be modified by a 'voicing" diacritc that turns e.g. "ta" into "da", and a specific diacritic that makes "pa" out of "ha"; and by replacing the vowel to make e.g. "fe" from "fu"+small "e"; or by replacing the vowel with a glide, e.g. "ki"+small "ya" = "kya". And then by lenghteting the vowel, e.g. "to"+"u" = "tō". And then doubling the consonant, e.g. small "tsu" + "ka" = "kka".
All the best, --stolfi

