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(12-03-2026, 04:49 PM)quimqu wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am reaching a rather frustrating point where I ask myself whether we might actually be at the end of the road regarding the analysis of the manuscript’s text.

I understand the frustration.  I have been there too.

But yes, I think the riddle will be solved, and I suspect that it will be rather suddenly and unexpectedly (like solutions of crypto and language puzzles often are).  

But I can tell you a few ways reduce your chances of making any progress:
  • Focus on character and digraph statistics, instead of words.
  • Assume that certain properties of European languages hold for all natural languages.
  • Assume that statistics are properties of a language, and not of a text.
  • Assume that there are practically no errors.
  • Assume that word spaces in the transcription are mostly correct.
  • Try to analyze all sections and all text types (labels, parags, etc.) at the same time.
  • Assume that the text of a parag is homogeneous, like a parag of a novel.
  • Focus on the variation of statistics along a line (as opposed to parag).
  • Focus on the statistics and possible equivalences of the puff gallows.
  • Keep all EVA characters distinct instead of mapping them to similarity classes and '?'. 
  • Assume that the script is a sophisticated cipher.

And I can give you a tip: look for the use of daiin (word or suffix) as a function of position within a parag (not line) of the Herbal sections.  But beware that it may show up as dair or laiin or possibly other "ink-similar" words.  (I haven't done that myself, and I don't know whether it will lead to something.  Apologies in advance if it turns out to be a waste of time.)

All the best, --stolfi
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Can we go further? - by quimqu - 12-03-2026, 04:49 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by asteckley - 12-03-2026, 05:07 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by pjburkshire - 12-03-2026, 05:10 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by dashstofsk - 12-03-2026, 05:14 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by magnesium - 12-03-2026, 05:51 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by ThomasCoon - 12-03-2026, 06:03 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by Fontanellean - 12-03-2026, 06:34 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by Jorge_Stolfi - 12-03-2026, 08:24 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by Rafal - 12-03-2026, 09:10 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 12-03-2026, 11:26 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by RobGea - 13-03-2026, 01:29 AM
RE: Can we go further? - by Jorge_Stolfi - 13-03-2026, 02:27 AM
RE: Can we go further? - by eggyk - 13-03-2026, 10:47 AM
RE: Can we go further? - by oshfdk - 13-03-2026, 12:06 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by eggyk - 13-03-2026, 12:55 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by ReneZ - 13-03-2026, 10:57 AM
RE: Can we go further? - by dashstofsk - 13-03-2026, 12:06 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by Koen G - 13-03-2026, 12:31 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by Rafal - 13-03-2026, 01:00 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by bi3mw - 13-03-2026, 02:26 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by quimqu - 13-03-2026, 07:29 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by R. Sale - 13-03-2026, 10:17 PM
RE: Can we go further? - by JoJo_Jost - 14-03-2026, 06:35 AM
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