The oddities of the bigram "ed"
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(17-02-2026, 07:32 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.my question about "eed" was related to the suggestion that "ed" might be a single unit. While this is tempting, this then leaves the question whether "eed" is another unit, or should be read as "e" + "ed". Neither seem satisfactory to me. (words ending -edy can also end -ey, or -eedy, or -eey)

Rene, you know my view.  My proposed "true alphabet" has the following elements:

  12443.625000  0.09984 {a}
  21543.125000  0.17285 {o}
  15120.250000  0.12132 {y}

  5192.000000   0.04166 {q}

  11388.500000  0.09137 {d}
   9220.250000  0.07398 {l}
   5792.375000  0.04647 {r}
   2081.750000  0.01670 {s}

   5664.500000  0.04545 {ch}   3906.250000  0.03134 {che}
   3842.250000  0.03083 {ee}    324.000000  0.00260 {eee}
   2085.500000  0.01673 {sh}   1869.250000  0.01500 {she}

   7295.000000  0.05853 {k}    1519.000000  0.01219 {ke}
   4173.750000  0.03349 {t}     786.000000  0.00631 {te}

    452.500000  0.00363 {ckh}   169.500000  0.00136 {ckhe}
    591.000000  0.00474 {cth}   148.000000  0.00119 {cthe}

    316.000000  0.00254 {f}
   1197.375000  0.00961 {p}


     36.000000  0.00029 {cfh}
    104.500000  0.00084 {cph}

    113.500000  0.00091 {n}     868.250000  0.00697 {m} 
   1665.500000  0.01336 {in}
   3779.000000  0.03032 {iin}
    159.000000  0.00128 {iiin}
   
My You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. listed a few others, like {cphe} and {ir}, but now I am almost convinced that they are errors at some stage. 
  
Thus, in my model, 
  • A single e is always a modifier for the previous element, which must be a "bench" Ch, Sh, or a "kite" (k/t gallows) possibly with platform.
  • A double e is always an element {ee} by itself, in the same "benches" class as Ch and Sh.
  • A triple e can be an element {eee} by itself; but if it comes after a bench or kite, it is ambiguous. Like, Cheeed could be {ch}{eee}{d} or {che}{ee}{d}. One day we may know the rule, but for now either parsing may be the right one.
  • A quadruple e may be ambiguous too, but they must be too rare to matter.
This model would "explain", for instance, why ed is never word-initial.  And it predicts that de is possible only as dee, not with a single e. Is this the case?

All the best, --stolfi
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The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 15-02-2026, 03:04 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by ReneZ - 15-02-2026, 04:09 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 12:01 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by eggyk - 15-02-2026, 11:02 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 12:29 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by oshfdk - 16-02-2026, 01:11 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 01:15 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 03:55 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 11:27 PM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 18-02-2026, 12:46 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 05:27 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by ReneZ - 15-02-2026, 09:52 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 12:10 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by oshfdk - 16-02-2026, 12:37 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 01:02 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by oshfdk - 16-02-2026, 01:07 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 01:27 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Rafal - 16-02-2026, 12:46 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by nablator - 17-02-2026, 10:37 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by oshfdk - 16-02-2026, 02:16 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 05:40 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by davidma - 16-02-2026, 11:39 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Skoove - 16-02-2026, 11:48 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by ReneZ - 16-02-2026, 12:46 PM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 16-02-2026, 11:41 PM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 17-02-2026, 02:10 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Koen G - 17-02-2026, 12:39 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 17-02-2026, 01:50 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by ReneZ - 17-02-2026, 07:32 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 18-02-2026, 12:41 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Jorge_Stolfi - 18-02-2026, 01:32 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by ReneZ - 17-02-2026, 12:16 PM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 18-02-2026, 12:51 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by nablator - 17-02-2026, 09:00 PM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by ReneZ - 18-02-2026, 12:54 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 18-02-2026, 02:20 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 19-02-2026, 01:16 AM
RE: The oddities of the bigram "ed" - by Dunsel - 17-03-2026, 05:54 AM

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