10-01-2026, 01:15 PM
(08-01-2026, 11:05 PM)magnesium wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's an interesting idea, but there are couple of properties of the VMS that don't jibe well with this thread's exact implementation of the cipher:
2. Unaltered word beginnings and endings. As outlined at the beginning of this thread, this sort of cipher does not rebracket / respace the plaintext in any way that would obscure the beginnings or endings of the plaintext words. As a result, the words themselves would be essentially unaltered in how they statistically relate to each other. Word frequencies and skewed pair frequencies would strongly suggest the grammatical functions of—and the specific identities of—especially common words, from which the substitution scheme could be unraveled. That hasn't happened for the VMS.
This was part of the reason that I mentioned this line:
Quote:- Some common words/letter groups are represented using the same symbols (to/up , lo/mo , to/un , th/ti , ile/ime/ike , ne/nd/oe/of/pe)
Would the words still statistically relate to one another the same way if multiple different letter clusters all get represented by the same glyphs? Doing a statistical analysis of word endings for my example above would mean that the words:
Serene, Depend, Toe, Roof, Slope, Canoe, Sand, Ape, Proof would all be considered to have the same 2 "letter" ending. Actually, in that case "Roof", "Proof", "Canoe", "Slope" actually all have the same 3 letter ending as well.
In situations where multiple relatively common words (with the same glyph representation for their suffix) are found throughout the text in different contexts, we would assume that suffix is far more common than it really is in the original language, and would struggle to understand the context in which it is always used (as we would unknowingly be analysing multiple suffixes, not one).
This could be the case with words ending in "daiin". We're searching for languages or ciphers that would cause many words to end with the same suffix, but it may actually represent many different real suffixes in the original language.


