One thing leads to another and it's back to ten years ago.
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The pattern of concentric circles in heraldry is uncommon. The English family Gorges was apparently Norman French, and likely too early to be VMs relevant. So, the reason for this rare pattern being in the VMs was unclear.
As Stolfi recently mentioned - Aberil is Portuguese. Historically, of course, Phillip the Good's third wife was Isabella of Portugal, m. 1430 - bringing Portuguese influences to the Burgundian capital of Dijon.
In the biography of PtG, it mentions 24 mistresses. One is listed as:
Jeanne/Colette Catelaine/Chastellain, also known as Jeanne/Colette de Bosquiel, demoiselle of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (died 1462), who married Étienne de Bours, also known as Mailltoin (died 1450), You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of Gorgues and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Étienne was in service to the duke.
So, the concentric pattern from Dark Aries is *potentially* not related to a family name but is a canting reference to a place called Gorgues.
As the historical example of heraldic canting in the Créquy family shows, it doesn't have to be a perfect match.
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The actual use of the gurges insignia in this situation has *not* been verified, so this might be just the artist's interpretation, based on a perceived similarity of sound. An inside joke and clearly not the only one. But..., to get down to it, the woman in the tub is *potentially* the mistress of the duke.
Obviously, this seems like rather thin ice *if* it had to stand on its own. It does not. This is the fourth VMs reference to Burgundian history. First is the mermaid, Melusine, - common to all Valois lines as children and descendants of Bonne of Luxembourg. Second is the Golden Fleece, specific to PtG and dated 1430. Third is the particular structural design connection with the image of the Agnus Dei that is found in a manuscript that was in the Burgundian library. [BFN Fr. 13096 f 18]
Additionally, there was Burgundian royal support for the reforms of Colette of Corbie. Her biography relates some "interesting" dreams, discussed previously.
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The pattern of concentric circles in heraldry is uncommon. The English family Gorges was apparently Norman French, and likely too early to be VMs relevant. So, the reason for this rare pattern being in the VMs was unclear.
As Stolfi recently mentioned - Aberil is Portuguese. Historically, of course, Phillip the Good's third wife was Isabella of Portugal, m. 1430 - bringing Portuguese influences to the Burgundian capital of Dijon.
In the biography of PtG, it mentions 24 mistresses. One is listed as:
Jeanne/Colette Catelaine/Chastellain, also known as Jeanne/Colette de Bosquiel, demoiselle of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (died 1462), who married Étienne de Bours, also known as Mailltoin (died 1450), You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of Gorgues and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Étienne was in service to the duke.
So, the concentric pattern from Dark Aries is *potentially* not related to a family name but is a canting reference to a place called Gorgues.
As the historical example of heraldic canting in the Créquy family shows, it doesn't have to be a perfect match.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The actual use of the gurges insignia in this situation has *not* been verified, so this might be just the artist's interpretation, based on a perceived similarity of sound. An inside joke and clearly not the only one. But..., to get down to it, the woman in the tub is *potentially* the mistress of the duke.
Obviously, this seems like rather thin ice *if* it had to stand on its own. It does not. This is the fourth VMs reference to Burgundian history. First is the mermaid, Melusine, - common to all Valois lines as children and descendants of Bonne of Luxembourg. Second is the Golden Fleece, specific to PtG and dated 1430. Third is the particular structural design connection with the image of the Agnus Dei that is found in a manuscript that was in the Burgundian library. [BFN Fr. 13096 f 18]
Additionally, there was Burgundian royal support for the reforms of Colette of Corbie. Her biography relates some "interesting" dreams, discussed previously.