08-10-2025, 06:32 PM
(08-10-2025, 02:41 AM)RenegadeHealer wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This makes a lot of sense.
Antiques and collectables have never been a hobby of mine, but I have known people who are into this. There’s an old saw in the world of antiquing: A problem with an artifact’s provenance means it’s either fake, or, if genuine, it’s not yours to sell. And unsurprisingly, a problem with a piece’s provenance greatly lowers its sale value. And pawn value. And ability to even be put on the block at any respectable auction house.
Thanks, this is an interesting analogy and also something we see in art museums at the moment: While there has been awareness about art looted and sold by the Nazis for quite a while, museums have long ignored everything that was acquired after 1945 unless explicitly contacted by survivors/descendants. Instead, they would just declare 'bought from art dealer xy, 1966' and call it a day. Only recently, larger projects to identify the whole provenance have begun.
(08-10-2025, 05:20 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But we don't know at all that Wideman was silent about how he got the MS.
No, I never claimed that we know this for a fact, and we will probably never know for sure. But we can be fairly certain that at some point between Widemann and Kircher, knowledge about how it got into Widemann's hands was lost. Widemann is the most logical candidate to have obscured the earlier provenance.