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I realize that subject the ostracized by of those for many years tried to collect stats and make a transfer based on the EVA alphabet.
But now the himself Rene began to talk about necessary upgrade EVA. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  
 
Everything happened because of the incorrect interpretation of "bench".
I am confident that it is necessary introducing new symbols: <¯>, <•>, < '>.
Let me remind  opinion Rene on the site Bax, when I first proposed the symbol "horizontal line":                       
 
The problem is a real one. Anyone who has ever done any transcription effort will understand it.
Normally, i.e. with regular manuscripts, one can read and understand what one transcribes, and one has help in deciding which character is meant. There is some possible confusion with ligatures and abbreviations, but that can be solved with the right level of expertise.
With the Voynich MS, we don’t really know for certain which are the characters, and most importantaly: which variations are just due to handwriting variations and which are ‘real’.
While representing the handwritten text by a set of digital units (ASCII codes), one makes decisions of this nature all the time. A user working just with the transcription file inherits all these decisions and cannot undo them. The fewer decisions taken, the better.
In old transcriptions, such as by Currier, the entire MS has been mapped to a set of 36 characters. In the newer transcriptions, a much larger character set is used. See
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and elsewhere. W.r.t. the interpretation (i.e. what all the characters mean), this has to be a second step. The less interpretation done during the transcription, the better. It may be that a high horizontal stroke has a different meaning than a lower horizontal stroke. For this type of questions, the scans seem to be the only possible source.
I do see a need (or at least a good use) for the next level of transcription, as I already briefly indicated at the last page of my web site, but it would be both a large and complicated effort.
 
I believe that on the contrary the entropy will decrease, as simultaneously with the introduction of the listed characters, I suggest remove extra characters such "c" and "h". (*)
Capital gallows transform into ordinary gallows.
Capital letters a, h, I, o, s, q transformed into bigrams (syllables).
It is becoming possible transcription of the "long bench".
It becomes possible to complete (or partial) transcription of some rare characters expanded EVA and V101.
(*) The attentive researchers can be said that their impossible to throw, as there are benches, which are formed from a "c" and "h" written with a gap. In response to this is:           "e¯ ¯ e".
Is in insets are shown examples of transcription. The top two decompositions I believe completely.
  The bottom three I present in the future. To them also need to add symbols "m" and "g", that are according to decomposition of Anton can be represented as bigrams (syllables) "m" = "i" + t2 (or code 194 v101), "g" = "e" + t2.

PS/  Anton. You have supported me in Russian forum last year, when I first started talking about the existence of the character "horizontal line". What do you meant: the particular glyphs or all of the options, "benches"?
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ARTIFACTS IN THE TEXT. - by Wladimir D - 30-09-2016, 07:49 AM
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