(08-06-2025, 01:44 PM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, that's the main question for me, because we already know about a lot of regularity from curve-line systems, slot grammars, etc. These approaches have explicit simple rules that are easy to analyze and compare, as opposed to black-box GPT models.
Without some metric that shows that a GPT based approach identifies structures beyond already identified with previous methods, it's hard for me to see if the GPT based approach is of any use at all.
I ran a validation test on a recent output of 891 generated words using a simplified slot grammar system adapted to EVA transliteration conventions.
Basic slot grammar rules:
valid_prefixes = ("qo", "ch", "sh")
valid_suffixes = ("y", "dy", "aiin", "ain", "daiin")
invalid_double_letters = ("tt", "pp", "ff")
invalid_final_glifs = ("q", "e", "ch")
Adapted for EVA transcription in Courier-like glifs:
valid_prefixes = ("4O", "S", "Z")
valid_suffixes = ("9", "89", "AM", "AN", "8AM")
invalid_final_glifs = ("4", "C", "S")
invalid_double_letters = ("PP", "BB", "FF")
Summary of results:
- ✅ 96.74% of the generated words match the slot grammar rules
- ✅ 95.5% of the total set correspond to real EVA words from the corpus
- ⚠️ 100% of the words have valid final glifs and no invalid double letters (so these two conditions have been learnt 100%)
Below is a list of the invented words that fulfill 100% the slot grammar restrictions:
Correct invented words: ['SCCX9', 'ZCCC9', '4OFAECC89', '4OFAEZC89', '4OFAEFCCC9', '4OFAEO9', 'SCCC89', '4OFAEZC89', 'SEFAN', '4ORAR9', '4OFCC889']
Below is a table of the invented words that do not fulfill 100% the slot grammar restrictions, and why:
| Word | Prefix | Suffix | EndOK | NoBadDbl | ✅ AllOK |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| ROPAJ | False | False | True | True | False |
| OFAEZE | False | False | True | True | False |
| AEOR | False | False | True | True | False |
| EZCC89R | False | False | True | True | False |
| 4OESCC9R | True | False | True | True | False |
| ESCO8 | False | False | True | True | False |
| 4CFAR | False | False | True | True | False |
| 8AROE | False | False | True | True | False |
| OEFCCC89 | False | True | True | True | False |
| FAEOE9 | False | True | True | True | False |
| POEZC89 | False | True | True | True | False |
| EFS9 | False | True | True | True | False |
| OZCC9 | False | True | True | True | False |
| AEFM | False | False | True | True | False |
| 2OEZCC9 | False | True | True | True | False |
| OEFAROR | False | False | True | True | False |
| 2OEZCC89 | False | True | True | True | False |
| E8AN | False | True | True | True | False |
| Z2AE | True | False | True | True | False |
| AEAR | False | False | True | True | False |
| 8EAM | False | True | True | True | False |
| RSCC89 | False | True | True | True | False |
| 8AEZC9 | False | True | True | True | False |
| 2AROE | False | False | True | True | False |
| EOEZC9 | False | True | True | True | False |
| BOEFAN | False | True | True | True | False |
| EOEFCC89 | False | True | True | True | False |
| 4OFOEOE | True | False | True | True | False |
| 4OFCCOE | True | False | True | True | False |
The high percentage of conformity suggests that the generation process is strongly guided by structural constraints similar to those observed in actual Voynichese. While not all words match real entries from the manuscript, most invented forms remain within plausible morpho-phonological boundaries defined by the slot grammar. This supports the idea that the model is not producing random noise, but instead approximates a coherent internal system—whether artificial or natural.

