(25-09-2016, 03:54 PM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.JKP:
Here you can listen to UK and US pronunciation: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
As you hear, the UK pronunciation does not produce a "mute e" sound. It is the actual consonants that take over the function of a vowel. The "o" is dropped and the "t-n" become "vowels".
I understand some of the differences in British pronunciation, but turning the t and n into "vowels" and dropping the "o" is a different dynamic from a syllabic consonant.
The Wikipedia article was specifically giving examples of syllabic consonants. Two are valid, one doesn't belong (regardless of British pronunciation) and if we don't all agree on that, then anything we say about the VMS will be understood differently by each poster and we'll go round in circles.
To give some additional examples... in the words on the left, the marked consonants are functioning as syllabic consonants (the vowel sound exists without the vowel and is implied and pronounced (I've added the apostrophe as an implied-vowel/pronounced-vowel indicator)).
The ones on the right are not syllabic consonants because
- the vowel creates the vowel sound (not the consonant) or
- (as in the example of rhythmic) because the vowel sound is not added when it is spoken:
Examples Examples (2 forms) (the consonant is simply a consonant, not a syllabic consonant)
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riddle [ridd'l] ridden [includes the vowel, so the "n" is not a syllabic consonant here]
rhythm [rhyth'm] rhythmic [rhyth mic - a vowel sound is not pronounced between th and m]
fiddle [fidd'l] fiddler [fidd ler]
bobble [bobb'l] bobbing [bobb ing]
scuttle [scutt'l] button [butt on]

