Voynichese Phonotactics
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(25-09-2016, 12:09 AM)Sam G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.That's admittedly possible, but eo and eeo are fairly rare as word endings.

They are much rarer than ey and eey, but the question is whether they are valid. If we're willing to accept that o is a vowel, and that y can be a vowel, why can we not accept they are both vowels in the same environment?

Quote:Well, I did not know that, but it's not a problem if y and l are syllabic consonants representing liquids.

Can I ask for some examples or arguments for why l is syllabic? I know that lk appears, but I doubt l is syllabic here. It could be a digraph or even perfectly reasonable as part of a cluster.

Quote:I don't see why this should be true.  The Wikipedia page on syllabic consonants provides counterexamples in English: A syllabic consonant or vocalic consonant is a consonant which either forms a syllable on its own, like the m, n and l in the English words rhythm, button and bottle...  In both "rhythm" and "button" you have a syllabic nasal following a consonant.

These only work because the following nasal is its own syllable. Onset clusters of obstruent + nasal are less common typically. Voynichese could have them but I would want to explore the alternatives first.
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Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 22-09-2016, 02:29 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Koen G - 22-09-2016, 02:36 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by MarcoP - 22-09-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 22-09-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Diane - 22-09-2016, 03:05 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by ReneZ - 23-09-2016, 07:19 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Koen G - 23-09-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 24-09-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Sam G - 24-09-2016, 09:19 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 24-09-2016, 10:43 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Sam G - 24-09-2016, 11:12 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Koen G - 24-09-2016, 06:21 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 24-09-2016, 07:57 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by farmerjohn - 24-09-2016, 08:35 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Koen G - 24-09-2016, 09:17 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 24-09-2016, 11:46 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 24-09-2016, 11:59 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Sam G - 25-09-2016, 12:09 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 25-09-2016, 02:04 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Sam G - 04-10-2016, 04:41 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 25-09-2016, 12:09 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Sam G - 25-09-2016, 02:05 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 25-09-2016, 12:56 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Sam G - 26-09-2016, 07:50 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 26-09-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Sam G - 27-09-2016, 09:07 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 27-09-2016, 11:46 AM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 25-09-2016, 02:02 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Diane - 25-09-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Koen G - 25-09-2016, 02:28 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 25-09-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 25-09-2016, 03:50 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Koen G - 25-09-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 25-09-2016, 03:59 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Koen G - 25-09-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 25-09-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 25-09-2016, 05:54 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by -JKP- - 25-09-2016, 06:22 PM
RE: Voynichese Phonotactics - by Emma May Smith - 25-09-2016, 06:51 PM

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