05-01-2025, 01:32 AM
(05-01-2025, 12:24 AM)Barbrey wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(04-01-2025, 11:27 PM)Linda wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Insofar as I think quires 13, 14, and the cosmos page at least, describe the earth, I think anything under the sun, so to speak, is fair game, especially since water seems comes up a lot, which relates to both plants and people. Nymphs are in quire 13 and in the zodiac. Quire 20 is in the same hand as quire 13. Also, the 4-people diagrams on the back of the Rosettes, one seems to show the bounty of harvest, along with the ages of man (which i don't think is what it portrays, currently writing a post about how it relates to quire 13) the style of both of those seems to go with f57v, which has a plant on the other side of the page, so i think that pulls some things together as well. I also think some things might make more sense if untangled from the way it is bound.
All great points. I’m looking forward to your post on the “4 ages”. I had my own idea of that one too, but it doesn’t quite work, out of order. And yes, water, water everywhere. Even the nymphs could represent water in the zodiac; I mean, what do buckets and barrels normally hold? I’ve given to calling the nymphs “ciphers”, which is what a zero was called back then. It seems non-intuitive but I just read “The Absent Image”, a new book on medieval images, and it’s really surprising the medieval meanings given to zero: placeholder, reproductive, defined by context, etc. All of the things I knew or suspected about the nymphs. With the multitude of “o”s in the text one never knows. This is the kind of fun research I enjoy regardless if it means anything.
Thanks for looking forward, just gonna check it again, each time I do, I think of something else...have you seen any of my posts about quire 13? They will be old. I don't think I actually finished writing up all the pages, but I think it is a contiguous tour of the world by water. I have been away awhile. But I still think about it so I thought I would relook at things again and see where it leads.
The most amazing thing about a book that seems to be indecipherable is that it gets other books read. So I would be just as happy to be wrong about what was meant, since it taught me stuff anyway, that I wouldn't have enjoyed learning the normal way.


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