Three-section orbs

[Linda]

One thing I've long wondered about is a possible relationship between the Voynich 'cosmos' illustration and the rosettes folio.

In the cosmos, the Earth is in the centre, and the sky outside, as one would expect it to be.
In the rosettes it is the opposite. The sky with stars is in the centre (carried by containers or towers) while the Earth is outside in the far upper right corner.
In the Cosmos, there are spirals coming in from eight directions. That they come in is suggested by the direction of the writing.
In the rosettes, there are eight circles surrounding the centre, all (apparently) pointing to it.

Alternatively, the upper right circle could have this role all by itself.
The sky with the stars in the centre, the Earth on the outside, and one spiral path.

I do not see the cosmos illustration (f83v3) as something that stands by itself.

I don't see the TO Earth as being outside of the rosettes, but rather informing them, indicating we are starting off from the middle of what is either the Europe section or the habitable section, depending on whether it is Isadore's or Oresme's TO, which works out perfectly since I think that rosette has connotations of being both a section of Europe and for standing in as a representation of the greater ecumene, both of which inform the rest of the rosettes. In both cases I think the starry spiral thing is indicative of a mountain. Asterisks = height? (I need to check on this more... yes that generally works out, in my view).

I think the middle rosette is a world civilization idea, all the pieces inform it, both culturally, and scientifically. As we compare things like the timing of eclipses, or of noon and such, we learn more about where we are in relation to each other and to the stars, and thereby gain information about distances and time. As we gain access to information from other places, we inform ourselves of new ways of thinking and develop better understanding.

I do believe both pages show the earth and the firmament. In the first case, the definition of Earth is the ball we live on, in the second, it is the terrain we live on. In the cosmos case, the firmament is the the heavens or the sky, especially when regarded as a tangible thing, (such as how it is drawn, and the mechanics of what is turning), in the rosettes, the other definition, a sphere or world viewed as a collection of people. Outside view vs inside view, I guess that is the relation.