(06-09-2024, 03:30 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Whenever I look at the nitty-gritty of Voynichese text, I can't help but feel like some glyphs should be (positional) variants of each other.
* final glyphs have a flourish: Eva- s, n
* In a series of i-minims, the last one looks like EVA-n
* In a series of c-shapes, the last one looks like EVA-s
* EVA-q could be the preferred shape of EVA-y before o
There are also other things, like if you have a series of minims that is not preceded by [o], the first one looks like EVA-a. And I'm sure there's much more like this.
I'm also sure all of this has been remarked many times before. What I don't understand is that some of these features (like [n] being just another minim) have not been adopted as the default approach yet...
I agree with the idea that positional variants do exist.
The following grid is part of the larger grid or network of related Voynich words (see network_grid.txt). In my view, it supports the idea that certain glyphs are interchangeable depending on their position. The core of the grid is built around similar word types, such as what I refer to as the "aiin-series," with words ending in [ain], [aiin], and [aiiin], and the "ol-series," featuring words ending in [ol], [or], [om], [al], [ar], and [am]. (Note: There are also some "hybrid" word types between these two series ending in [air], [ail], and [an].)
In my view, the grid supports the idea that certain glyphs are more likely to interchange in specific positions, while being less likely to do so in others. For example, [o] can interchange with [y] both at the beginning and end of a word. However, words starting with [o-] are much more common than those starting with [y-]. Similarly, while words ending in [o] do exist, there are significantly more words that end in [y] than in [o]. Additionally, [o] can interchange with [a] before [l] and [r], but not before glyphs like [s], [d], [k], or [t].
In my view, it is reasonable to propose certain positional rules as working hypotheses. For example, word-final [-o] and [-a] may become [-y], or word-initial [d-] and [ch-] may transform into a gallow glyph when preceded by prefixes like [o-], [y], or [qo]. This would suggest that [qokal], without the final [l], would transform into [qoky] rather than [qoka], and [chedal] would similarly change to [chedy], and not [cheda]. Likewise, adding a prefix [o-] to [daiin] would more likely result in [okaiin] rather than [odaiin]. (Note: There are always some rare word types that break these "rules". It is for instance possible to find words with [a] before [t] like You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. or words ending in [a] like You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Such exceptions typically do not follow the Curve-Line System, as a glyph ending with a line stroke, such as [a], should be followed by a glyph starting with a line stroke like [r], [n], [i], or [l]. (see the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. or "Die Harmonie der Glyphenfolgen" by You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)).
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d- od- qod- qok- ok- yk- k- t- yt- ot- qot-
aiiin ( 41) daiiin ( 17) odaiiin( 4) qodaiiin( 2) qokaiiin( 2) okaiiin( 4) ykaiiin( 1) kaiiin( 3) taiiin( 1) ytaiiin(--) otaiiin( 1) qotaiiin( 2)
aiin (469) daiin (863) odaiin (60) qodaiin (42) qokaiin (262) okaiin (212) ykaiin (45) kaiin (65) taiin (42) ytaiin (43) otaiin (154) qotaiin (79)
ain ( 89) dain (211) odain (18) qodain (11) qokain (279) okain (144) ykain (10) kain (48) tain (16) ytain (13) otain ( 96) qotain (64)
an ( 7) dan ( 20) odan ( 2) qodan ( 2) qokan ( 8) okan ( 5) ykan ( 1) kan ( 3) tan ( 1) ytan (--) otan ( 5) qotan ( 2)
air ( 74) dair (106) odair ( 5) qodair ( 3) qokair ( 17) okair ( 22) ykair ( 8) kair (14) tair (13) ytair ( 3) otair ( 21) qotair ( 6)
ar (350) dar (318) odar (24) qodar ( 3) qokar (152) okar (129) ykar (36) kar (52) tar (43) ytar (26) otar (141) qotar (63)
ail ( 5) dail ( 2) odail (--) qodail (--) qokail ( 1) okail ( 1) ykail ( 1) kail ( 1) tail (--) ytail (--) otail ( 1) qotail ( 1)
al (260) dal (253) odal (13) qodal ( 7) qokal (191) okal (138) ykal (16) kal (23) tal (20) ytal (19) otal (143) qotal (59)
am ( 88) dam ( 98) odam ( 6) qodam ( 3) qokam ( 25) okam ( 26) ykam ( 5) kam ( 9) tam (--) ytam (13) otam ( 47) qotam (12)
os ( 29) dos ( 1) odos (--) qodos ( 1) qokos ( 1) okos ( 8) ykos (--) kos ( 3) tos ( 4) ytos ( 1) otos ( 4) qotos ( 1)
or (363) dor ( 73) odor ( 8) qodor ( 2) qokor ( 36) okor ( 34) ykor (10) kor (26) tor (23) ytor (14) otor ( 46) qotor (29)
ol (537) dol (117) odol ( 2) qodol ( 1) qokol (104) okol ( 82) ykol (14) kol (37) tol (48) ytol (12) otol ( 86) qotol (47)
o ( 81) do ( 16) odo (--) qodo (--) qoko ( 9) oko ( 8) yko (--) ko ( 2) to ( 2) yto ( 5) oto ( 9) qoto ( 3)
y (151) dy (270) ody (46) qody (17) qoky (147) oky (102) yky (18) ky (25) ty (16) yty (24) oty (115) qoty (87)
ey ( 1) dey ( 1) odey ( 1) qodey (--) qokey (107) okey ( 63) ykey ( 8) key (14) tey (11) ytey (13) otey ( 57) qotey (24)
eey ( 3) deey ( 7) odeey ( 2) qodeey ( 2) qokeey (308) okeey (177) ykeey (58) keey (44) teey (20) yteey (28) oteey (140) qoteey (42)
eeey ( 1) deeey ( 1) odeeey ( 2) qodeeey (--) qokeeey ( 26) okeeey ( 27) ykeeey ( 6) keeey (11) teeey ( 1) yteeey ( 3) oteeey ( 8) qoteeey ( 4)
chey (311) dchey ( 18) odchey ( 1) qodchey (--) qokchey ( 30) okchey ( 32) ykchey ( 6) kchey (21) tchey (22) ytchey (12) otchey ( 31) qotchey (19)
chy (155) dchy ( 39) odchy ( 1) qodchy ( 2) qokchy ( 69) okchy ( 39) ykchy (22) kchy (29) tchy (24) ytchy (19) otchy ( 48) qotchy (63)
shy (104) dshy ( 8) odshy (--) qodshy (--) qokshy ( 10) okshy ( 10) ykshy ( 2) kshy ( 5) tshy ( 5) ytshy ( 3) otshy ( 4) qokshy (10)![[+]](https://www.voynich.ninja/images/collapse_collapsed.png)