Paths to Decipherment
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(23-04-2024, 11:43 PM)asteckley wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And ML is in essence  nothing more than "pattern recognition", although it can be remarkably good at it -- It can recognize deep patterns in the data that are beyond our abilities as humans to detect. But it requires first having many ... MANY!... examples with which to train it. It's not as simple as just feeding the Voynichese into some existing model (i.e. AI system) and then letting it come up with some kind of answer for what it says, or what language it's based on, or whatever. 

Yes, exactly. Correct training material should be identified. I don't think the "380 versions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights" used by Greg Kondrak was the correct training material.

There really are two groups of people interested in this. There are those who think it is an encryption ( I include constructed languages and shorthand in this) and there are those who think it is a lost natural language, so two groups of training materials need to be identified.

I think the manuscript should be processed in sections, not as a whole. I think to start the focus should be on the pages with one plant each so we may want to review those pages to be sure the data is as clean as possible.

The training material should include 14th and 15th century books about plants and should include information about languages from that time.

Since I think it is a lost natural language and I speculate that "daiin" (daiin) may mean "and", I would like to know about the words that are before and after "daiin" (daiin).
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Paths to Decipherment - by Mark Knowles - 19-04-2024, 06:34 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by bi3mw - 19-04-2024, 07:47 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 19-04-2024, 08:38 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by R. Sale - 20-04-2024, 12:34 AM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 20-04-2024, 12:01 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by ReneZ - 20-04-2024, 12:07 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 20-04-2024, 12:21 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by Mark Knowles - 21-04-2024, 04:59 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by asteckley - 23-04-2024, 11:43 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 24-04-2024, 12:22 AM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by asteckley - 24-04-2024, 02:25 AM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 24-04-2024, 08:24 AM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by R. Sale - 24-04-2024, 07:12 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by HermesRevived - 25-04-2024, 05:56 AM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 25-04-2024, 12:22 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by tavie - 25-04-2024, 12:45 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 25-04-2024, 01:58 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by nablator - 29-04-2024, 12:45 PM
RE: Paths to Decipherment - by pjburkshire - 29-04-2024, 02:28 PM

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