06-04-2024, 07:57 PM
(06-04-2024, 06:14 PM)R. Sale wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The idea of 'listening to the experts' is subject to interpretation. One might note that all the proposed experts agree that the VMs is at least 400 years old, in current terms, being made before 1600.
Listening to the experts, one might say: Hmm, they might be right. OR, they clearly failed to detect Wilfrid's cunning plan.
Well true, they would have failed to detect his plan as you say, and there are many cases of such expert failures throughout history. The forged "Oath of a Freeman", in fact, was practically guaranteed by "our own" McCrone associates to be 100% genuine. And on this very forum, only a few years ago, I was told that the experts said the Vinland map was real... they didn't all, and the ones who thought so, it turns out, were wrong. And experts and institutions are highly reluctant to both investigate their collections FOR forgeries, nor admit them when experts reveal them. There are probably hundreds of cases of this, from what I have learned. To name two, the Metropolitan has the bronze Romulus and Remus sculpture, revealed to be an 18th century "homage" and not original... but to my knowledge, the still present it as authentic. The British Library has not yet re-written their description of the "Columbus Miniature" (sold to them by Wilfrid) as a forgery, although this is universally accepted.
Forgeries in literature and art have a long history of being missed, ignored and improperly described as real, by the experts and institutions.
As for them agreeing it was at least 400 years old, yes... but from what I have gathered, 1) They didn't actually agree, for the most part, but were all over the calendar and map, 2) They were dating the Voynich by the content and styles they observed within it, not on any "forgery" criteria, as they 3) were not forgery specific scholars, nor 4) tasked with the question, "Is it real or not?".
I mean, I separate the type of scholarship which looks for signs of forgery, from that which dates and identifies items through comparative studies of content, art history, paleography, graphology, and so on. For instance, I can find no case of Singer, or Panofsky, being asked, or opining, on whether or not "Wilfrid might have done it".
Rich.


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