My thoughts on the VMS
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(09-09-2016, 12:33 AM)ThomasCoon wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In the spirit of collaboration, here are two things I've noticed:

1. o can appear next to almost every other Voynich letter and frequent combinations (and it is the only Voynich letter that can do this):
oe, qo, ot, ok, or, oy, om, oi, oiin, of, op, os, oo, oa, ol, oSh

2. I made a chart of the qo- words. It is not a full chart, but it should be helpful to someone researching this topic:


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Thomas, I should probably explain what I mean when I say the spaces could be arbitrary or contrived (not saying they are, but that the possibility is there).

When I say arbitrary, I mean this:

  On ceup on atimet herew a sac ast leo nthem oun tain. (No particular pattern to the word breaks.)


When I say contrived, I mean this:

  On ce upon atime the re w as ac astle on the moun t ain. (Planning the word breaks so they fall before and after certain letters.)

Since contrived spacing is still relatively easy to read, add a couple of null characters, a common character like "o", and something that looks like a Latin prefix/suffix abbreviation like "9" and you get this:

On9 oce9 upon9 atime the9 ore9 ow as9 ac oastle ...


And then apply a simple substitution code using Voynichese characters, treating u/v/w as the same glyph, and you get something with many of the properties of the VMS—a lot of short words of approximately the same length with a large number of certain characters (characters that may be a combination of real letters and nulls, depending on position) showing up at the beginnings and ends of words by design.


I've said I lean fairly strongly toward the not-natural-language camp but the above process results in something rather like Voynichese, which is why I still think there's a possibility that it might be.


So, with reference to your chart, if it's a natural language with contrived spaces (especially if there are also null characters), lists of words with similar beginnings might not reveal as much as one would hope. If it's a constructed language, the lists are likely helpful.
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My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 07-07-2016, 10:00 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Anton - 07-07-2016, 11:47 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 09-09-2016, 12:33 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 09-09-2016, 01:36 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by stellar - 26-09-2016, 12:00 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 09-09-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Emma May Smith - 09-09-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 09-09-2016, 12:44 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ReneZ - 09-09-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Davidsch - 09-09-2016, 12:07 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by MarcoP - 09-09-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 09-09-2016, 01:43 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by MarcoP - 09-09-2016, 02:15 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 09-09-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by MarcoP - 09-09-2016, 03:46 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 09-09-2016, 08:13 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by stellar - 09-09-2016, 10:44 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 26-09-2016, 03:54 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by MarcoP - 28-09-2016, 11:38 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 28-09-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 28-09-2016, 08:01 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by davidjackson - 09-09-2016, 01:20 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Diane - 09-09-2016, 08:54 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 09-09-2016, 11:04 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by MarcoP - 10-09-2016, 08:23 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Wladimir D - 10-09-2016, 07:19 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 15-09-2016, 02:28 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 15-09-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by MarcoP - 16-09-2016, 11:32 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 16-09-2016, 09:01 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 15-09-2016, 03:29 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 15-09-2016, 06:38 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 16-09-2016, 01:23 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Wladimir D - 15-09-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 15-09-2016, 08:41 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by farmerjohn - 16-09-2016, 07:45 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Anton - 16-09-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ReneZ - 16-09-2016, 01:47 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Anton - 16-09-2016, 02:15 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Emma May Smith - 16-09-2016, 04:46 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 16-09-2016, 05:06 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Anton - 16-09-2016, 06:09 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Searcher - 16-09-2016, 11:00 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 17-09-2016, 12:00 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 17-09-2016, 03:17 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 17-09-2016, 03:30 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 17-09-2016, 07:04 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Wladimir D - 17-09-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Emma May Smith - 17-09-2016, 07:07 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 17-09-2016, 02:28 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by MarcoP - 17-09-2016, 08:58 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Searcher - 17-09-2016, 10:16 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Koen G - 17-09-2016, 06:42 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by Emma May Smith - 25-09-2016, 10:47 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 28-09-2016, 01:44 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 28-09-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 28-09-2016, 05:55 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by ThomasCoon - 01-10-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: My thoughts on the VMS - by -JKP- - 02-10-2016, 01:17 AM
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