Are the 1430s the most likely date range for the Zodiac drawings?
Tagged two more Alsace manuscripts.

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Just one image here. It's an earlier (1410) representation from the story of Ortnit. There's a similar illustration from Strasbourg dated 1420. It is an interesting tale, new to me. Is it familiar to others??

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The other source from Alsace has eleven illustrations from a bible dated 1410.

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I don't really know how to describe this style. Compared to later Strasbourg and Haguenau productions it appears 'crude' or 'raw' or *something*. But taking a closer look at the illustrations reveals that the artist has gone through and painted everyone's lips red.

The presence of red lips is prevalent among the VMs nymphs, of course. I looked for this manuscript in prior discussions here but didn't find it. Is there an investigation with data on "red lips"?
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RE: Are the 1430s the most likely date range for the Zodiac drawings? - by R. Sale - 30-11-2022, 08:21 PM

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