27-11-2022, 08:39 PM
That's what I've been trying to say all along: there is a tradition of manuscript making in Haguenau before Lauber showed up. He adopted the older workshop's examples and updated them or neglected updating them as he saw fit. The VM contains nothing of the "updates", but does show similarities to the Haguenau style pre-1430. But while it shows similarities, it also shows enough differences so we cannot ay that it is exactly in Haguenau style. Artistic styles can be related without necessarily being the same. The Haguenau style is very recognizable once you know it.
Again, anyone is free to assume that old examples were copied at any given moment. But this is not an interesting question in my opinion, because it teaches us nothing. A 1450 claim is equal to a 1480 or 1550 claim, because in all cases, the maker would be using antiquated examples. As Lauber did. But once again, Lauber uses post-1430 fashion as well, while the VM doesn't.
If you can point to any fashion in the VM that would have existed in 1430 but not before, this would be very interesting, and then this thread would actually have some substance to it.
Again, anyone is free to assume that old examples were copied at any given moment. But this is not an interesting question in my opinion, because it teaches us nothing. A 1450 claim is equal to a 1480 or 1550 claim, because in all cases, the maker would be using antiquated examples. As Lauber did. But once again, Lauber uses post-1430 fashion as well, while the VM doesn't.
If you can point to any fashion in the VM that would have existed in 1430 but not before, this would be very interesting, and then this thread would actually have some substance to it.