02-08-2021, 06:11 PM
(02-08-2021, 02:34 PM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Julian
We know that EVA likely inflates glyph counts to some extent. This is almost certain for benches, and arguments can be made for other frequent n-grams in EVA, like [qo], [iin] or even [aiin]. I think this might be an issue because you compare various context: after K, after P, after benched gallows...
Here is an exaggerated scenario:
- Let's imagine that [iin] is actually one glyph. This adds two characters to the count whenever it occurs.
- Imagine that [iin] is more common following unbenched gallows, with on average one extra [iin] per gallow.
In this case, the counts for unbenched gallows are on average two higher because of EVA, not because of Voynichese.
You write in your conclusion: "The number of glyphs that follow a benched Gallows is typically 3, before the next Gallows is encountered. For un-benched Gallows, this number is typically 5 to 7." If the glyphs following benched gallows tend to be different glyphs than those following unbenched gallows, then it is possible that the different numbers are caused in part by EVA-inflation. It is also possible though that you will get the same proportions with different parsing, but I cannot rule out EVA-inflation just by looking at your data.
Hi Koen,
OK, that's what I suspected you meant :-) I don't think the absolute values of the counts matter too much, only that there is a preferred value, and the distribution shape of the values. For EVA, the count of glyphs following a benched gallows are usually 3 and for un-benched between 5 and 7. For Voyn_101 the number will be N for benched and M for un-benched. Will M-N be different or the same for all transcriptions, and will the shapes of the distributions look the same as for EVA?
EVA example benched gallows pair f1r, line 9:
Code:
cphesaiin.ol.s.cpheySame pair Voyn_101:
Code:
Gcsam.oes.Gc9

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