today I found this page, and am not sure if it belongs in this thread,
but I have to post this nonsense and fake page somewhere ;-)
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Kent Ramliden
14. März 2015
@Ruth Krämer-Klink
This link you provided was a very good lead. It turns out the owner of this website at one point owned the book in which the note was found. He no longer does but he may be able to tell you more if you have further interest. He told me a Swiss book collector formerly owned the book and he believes a collector in France now has the book, which he said concerns botanical matters. You can reach him via the Guestbook feature of his website if you want to learn more about the book or the note origin.
Regarding the text itself I found online references to two historical works which, with minor variations, contain lines 1,2 and 4 of the pergament note in Latin plain text: Page 745 of “Scriptores rerum austriacarum” by Hieronymus Pez and page 73 of “Historia canonae Sand-Hippolytanae” by Christoffe Muller (Albert de Maderna). Both works appear to be from the 1700s and the texts connected with St. Hyppolite is some way.
These two texts differ substantially from the University of Vienna online text from 2003(the actual text underlying the encrypted note which I shared in a prior note) with respect to line 3. Here the university text has removed “visu pulcherrima et odoratu suavissima” and substituted “in sepulcro quod erat fornice illo”. Google Translate tells me this makes a big difference!
From the use of Voynichese text values pretty much identical to Zandbergen and Landini’s EVA values we can already suspect the note is pretty recent, the Vienna text may be an indication the note was written after 2003.
I hope that the information is of use to you and wish you well with any further enquiries. If I can help further please let me know."
but I have to post this nonsense and fake page somewhere ;-)
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Kent Ramliden
14. März 2015
@Ruth Krämer-Klink
This link you provided was a very good lead. It turns out the owner of this website at one point owned the book in which the note was found. He no longer does but he may be able to tell you more if you have further interest. He told me a Swiss book collector formerly owned the book and he believes a collector in France now has the book, which he said concerns botanical matters. You can reach him via the Guestbook feature of his website if you want to learn more about the book or the note origin.
Regarding the text itself I found online references to two historical works which, with minor variations, contain lines 1,2 and 4 of the pergament note in Latin plain text: Page 745 of “Scriptores rerum austriacarum” by Hieronymus Pez and page 73 of “Historia canonae Sand-Hippolytanae” by Christoffe Muller (Albert de Maderna). Both works appear to be from the 1700s and the texts connected with St. Hyppolite is some way.
These two texts differ substantially from the University of Vienna online text from 2003(the actual text underlying the encrypted note which I shared in a prior note) with respect to line 3. Here the university text has removed “visu pulcherrima et odoratu suavissima” and substituted “in sepulcro quod erat fornice illo”. Google Translate tells me this makes a big difference!
From the use of Voynichese text values pretty much identical to Zandbergen and Landini’s EVA values we can already suspect the note is pretty recent, the Vienna text may be an indication the note was written after 2003.
I hope that the information is of use to you and wish you well with any further enquiries. If I can help further please let me know."