Which things in the manuscript can be dated?
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Okay, for zodiacs...

I searched my files. I have more than 600 zodiac series that are more-or-less complete. A few of them are duplicates in the sense that there was more than one in the same manuscript BUT only some of these are similar to each other. Sometimes the "duplicate" is actually a variation of the other one.

If I separate out the ones that have characteristics that my research suggests are thematically related, I get about 21 hits. There would be a couple more, but some of them are very similar in most ways and yet will have one that diverges (e.g., nude male twins instead of two affectionate clothed figures, whether male and male or male and female), 2-legged archer, and non-scorpion Scorpius. This is a relatively small number but the date range is somewhat surprising in that it originates quite early...

The date range for this thematic group ranges from c. 830 to the early 1500s. The ones from the late 1300s until 1503 comprise about half.

The one from c. 830 has all the right elements except that there is a figure holding the scales and the twins are male. By c. 1170s, the no-figure Libra exists but the twins are still male (I have posted most of these on my series of zodiac blogs).


There are several from circa late-1200s and early/mid-1300s that are similar but twins are still male and on one they are behind shields (which I'm pretty sure is a related but different subgroup).

By c. 1300, we have all the right elements, including male and female Gemini (the Claricia Psalter, one of my favorities, which I have posted several times) and Losbuch (Ser. nova 2652, later 1300s) which is incomplete but which has the right elements except that the scorpion is probably meant to be a real scorpion, but it may be significant that it has a romantic male/female couple. Graz 287 (late 1300s? c. 1400?) has the right elements except a hand holds the scales.


So the majority of those that are very close on several counts are from about 1300 to about 1405 (not counting the VMS).
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RE: Which things in the manuscript can be dated? - by -JKP- - 26-01-2020, 12:59 PM

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