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sh_ and ch_ compose the same words
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(24-11-2019, 03:28 PM)MarcoP wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For comparison, I have also looked at the behaviour of qokeedy, which occurs 305 times in this pages (1.2% frequency). In this case, the differences are quite large, look for instance at the combination with ol, daiin, qokain, chey, or. 

Indeed, <chedy>/<shedy> occur frequently beside <qokeedy>/<qokedy>. The correlation between <chedy> and <qokeedy> is therefore even stronger as the correlation between <qokeedy> and <qokedy> or the correlation between <okeedy> and <okedy>.

Pearson's Correlation(chedy[501],  shedy[426]) : +0.84 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(qokeedy[305],chedy[501]) : +0.71 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(qokedy[272], shedy[426]) : +0.72 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(qokeedy[305],qokedy[272]): +0.66 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(qokeedy[305],okeedy[105]): +0.65 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(qokedy[272], okedy[118]) : +0.66 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(okeedy[105], okedy[118]) : +0.66 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(okeedy[105], chedy[501]) : +0.68 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(okedy[118],  shedy[426]) : +0.49 (n=225)
Pearson's Correlation(okeedy[105], okedy[118]) : +0.66 (n=225)

              okeedy  okedy  qokeedy  qokedy  chedy  shedy word count
              ------ ------ -------- ------- ------ ------ ----------
Herbal     (A)     1                              1             8,087
Pharma     (A)     1                       1      1      1      2,529
Astro              1      1                       4             2,136
Cosmo                     5        4       5     24     17      2,691
Herbal     (B)    13     25        9      39     62     35      3,233
Stars      (B)    48     33      137      61    190    113     10,673
Biological (B)    39     46      153     164    210    247      6,911


(24-11-2019, 03:28 PM)MarcoP wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In general, one can observe that (in this set of data) qokeedy never follows -in, while chedy/shedy often do. 

Indeed, 'qo' is frequently following 'y'. This observation was already described by Currier in 1976: "'Words' ending in the y sort of symbol, which is very frequent, are followed about four times as often by 'words' beginning with qo. That is a fact, and it holds true throughout the entire twenty pages of 'Biological B'" (Currier 1976).


(24-11-2019, 03:28 PM)MarcoP wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Given the Voynichese tendency to quasi-reduplication, it seems also interesting that chey never appears before chedy/shedy (while it is frequent before qokeedy).

Indeed <chey> never appears before <chedy> or <shedy>. But <chey> appears one time after <chedy> and four times after <shedy>.

There is also a sequence 'Shedy Shedy Shey Shedy' in line f76r.R.26 and a sequence 'Shey chedy qokedy chedy' in line 76v.P.41. <shey> not only appears once before <shedy> and once before <chedy> it also appears five times after <shedy>.


(24-11-2019, 03:28 PM)MarcoP wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If Voynichese words are meaningful, it seems that chedy and shedy must have a closely related meaning/function, while qokeedy appears to be quite different. On the other hand, the differences can be largely explained by the general dislike of q-words to follow -in and the opposite preference of bench-words to do so.

<chedy>,<shedy>, <qokeedy>, <qokedy>, <okeedy>, and <okedy> appear together on the same pages. Therefore it would be problematic to argue, that the relation between <chedy> and <shedy> is different than the relation between <qokeedy> and <qokedy> or between <okeedy> and <okedy>. By arguing this way it would be therefore very hard to explain sequences like 'Shedy qokedy qokeedy qokeedy chedy' in line f84r.P.10.
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sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by Davidsch - 05-11-2019, 08:56 PM
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