Poll: CH_ and SH_ words are similar
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sh_ and ch_ compose the same words
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Yes, I agree it is necessary to make more comparisons in order to be able to find an explanation for all this.

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is an indication of arbitrariness. Like pulling words arbitrarily out of a hat. Or, as if the difference between ch and Sh is meaningless. This way of thinking causes other problems, e.g. in the area of entropy, and one would be pushed into the direction that Voynich words are not complete words, but verbose renditions of something smaller.

'Verbose' of course implies that there is a meaningless component in the text, but it is not all meaningless.

The difference between ch and Sh could also be 'trivial' rather than meaningless. What do I mean with that?
If the text is an encoding of some plain text, then the plain text was of course a handwritten text. The curl on top of the Sh could be a representation of a serif. Just one more idea....

What I didn't show is what happens if one splits the stars section (quire 20) into two parts as indicated on this page: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

The group of bifolios 103+116 , 107+112, 108+111 is more like the biological text than the other three, so I called the two 'dialects': Stars-Bio and Stars-B.
With that split, the correlations of the sub-clouds for both is almost exactly 0. (0.002 and 0.015 respectively).

Also, the ratio of chedy : Shedy is:
127 : 83 for Stars-Bio (which is almost exactly 3:2)
58 : 29 for Stars-B (which is exactly 2:1)

This is perhaps, or even probably, coincidental, but there are other, similar considerations for the general difference between B and A language, and the mysterious absence / abundance of words including ed .

Just some random thoughts...

--- Edit: two more thoughts ---

The effect of varying page length, which causes an artificial positive correlation, seems to be effectively eliminated by two different methods:
1) the one proposed by @nablator, by subtracting the expected values based on some average
2) by computing the percentages

While they are different, the resulting correlations are quite similar (certainly equivalent), and any remaining correlation is clearly significant.

The word pairs with ch / Sh largely have a ratio of almost 2:1, but the most frequent pair chedy : Shedy is clearly an exception. This is mostly caused by the biological section, which again turns out to be 'different' in yet one more respect. It has always been seen as the most repetitive of all texts in the MS.
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sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by Davidsch - 05-11-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 06-11-2019, 06:46 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 08-11-2019, 09:36 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 10-11-2019, 07:05 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 10-11-2019, 06:59 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 10-11-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 12-11-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 13-11-2019, 06:24 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 14-11-2019, 08:44 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 14-11-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 14-11-2019, 09:07 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 15-11-2019, 09:47 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 15-11-2019, 12:29 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 15-11-2019, 03:39 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 16-11-2019, 06:51 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 16-11-2019, 09:39 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 16-11-2019, 10:40 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 17-11-2019, 08:50 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 17-11-2019, 03:25 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 18-11-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 25-11-2019, 06:38 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 25-11-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 23-11-2019, 06:06 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 27-11-2019, 05:55 AM

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