Phonology of Voynichese
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(08-04-2019, 10:15 PM)geoffreycaveney wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.about the alternation of final [-y] and [-aiin] as suffixes of the same roots: Many researchers have observed that the glyph [y] has the shape of the common medieval Latin ms abbreviation for the "-us" suffix. If [-y] is also being used here to represent a suffix "-Vs", then this alternation could represent for example [-y] = nominative "-Vs" and [-aiin] = accusative "-Vn". In this case, the vowel is written as [a] in the [aiin] suffix, but not written separately in the [y] suffix. Such an explanation could be valid for this phenomenon in a number of medieval European languages.


Hi Geoffrey,
that idea is discussed by Jacques Guy inYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (1991). I think Guy's paper marked a significant step forward in Voynich studies: it is definitely worth reading. Guy observes that (in the part of the text he analyzed) -y 'accounts for 50% of word finals, an extraordinarily high proportion. Do folio 79v and 80r contain a text with every other word or so ending in "-us" or "-os", or even plain "-s"? Possible of course, but quite improbable and thus a poor working hypothesis'. Such a high frequency strongly suggests that y must be a vowel (if the script is phonetic and not an abjad).

Guy also mentions the well known fact that in Medieval Latin manuscripts the '9' abbreviation 'word-initially [represents] the prefix "con-" or its variants (com-, cun-, cum-)'.
Of course, if one thinks that -9 as a suffix works as in Latin manuscripts, an implication is that also 9- as a prefix does so. But evidence suggests that EVA:y represents the same sound word-initially and word-finally. In particular, words ending with -y are followed by words starting with y- less frequently than expected (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). This can be observed for all Voynichese symbols that can occur both word-initially and word-finally. In many languages, the consecutive repetition of the same sound across word-boundaries is avoided through alteration of one of the two words (e.g. in Italian word-ending vowels are often dropped before words starting with the same vowel). See also Emma's discussion of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
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Phonology of Voynichese - by davidjackson - 06-04-2019, 07:21 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Koen G - 06-04-2019, 07:51 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by davidjackson - 06-04-2019, 08:19 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Common_Man - 06-04-2019, 08:26 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by -JKP- - 18-09-2019, 09:16 AM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Monica Yokubinas - 18-09-2019, 10:24 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by davidjackson - 06-04-2019, 08:35 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 07-04-2019, 01:26 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Linda - 07-04-2019, 01:49 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 07-04-2019, 05:15 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by ReneZ - 07-04-2019, 05:26 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by RenegadeHealer - 18-09-2019, 06:01 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Emma May Smith - 07-04-2019, 08:57 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by MarcoP - 08-04-2019, 03:53 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Emma May Smith - 08-04-2019, 06:23 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by MarcoP - 08-04-2019, 06:57 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Emma May Smith - 08-04-2019, 07:14 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by MarcoP - 08-04-2019, 08:09 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Stephen Carlson - 18-09-2019, 12:54 AM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 08-04-2019, 08:23 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Linda - 08-04-2019, 07:06 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by Emma May Smith - 08-04-2019, 09:38 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 08-04-2019, 10:15 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by MarcoP - 09-04-2019, 08:24 AM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 10-04-2019, 03:53 AM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by MarcoP - 10-04-2019, 07:48 AM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 10-04-2019, 11:45 AM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by MarcoP - 10-04-2019, 01:08 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 10-04-2019, 01:54 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by MarcoP - 10-04-2019, 03:43 PM
RE: Phonology of Voynichese - by geoffreycaveney - 10-04-2019, 04:04 PM
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