Which other manuscript contain the most Voynichese glyphs?
(02-02-2019, 10:17 AM)crezac wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
But that's not proof that the glyphs originated as an appropriation of anything Latin or that they will follow the same rules.  

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Well I keep saying that. For years I've been emphasizing that.

I keep saying glyph SHAPES glyph SHAPES glyph SHAPES and 75% of the people who respond to me READ INTO THAT "Latin language", which is something I have NEVER said.

Latin characters are used for dozens of languages (French, Italian, Spanish, Czech, German, Swedish, English, Polish, Vietnamese, etc.), and co-opting the shapes of Latin characters does NOT automatically mean Latin language, grammar or vocabulary (which is a repeat of what I have repeatedly said).

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BUT there is SOMETHING going on, because if certain of the Voynichese Latin glyph-shapes fall into the same POSITIONS as they do in languages that use Latin characters, then not only was the designer familiar with Latin characters and abbreviations, but the person was manipulating Voynichese in some way that is similar to the way Latin abbreviations are used.

This important dynamic is frequently overlooked, probably because most people are not familiar with medieval Latin abbreviation conventions and ONLY look at Voynich glyphs from a simple-substitution-code point of view (about 90% of the supposed "solutions" fall into this category).

Only a few people have explored the possible expansions of VMS characters in ways that were COMMON in the Middle Ages (one or two characters expanding into several or many). Unfortunately, some who have tried to do this (e.g., Lockerby), did NOT understand that medieval abbreviation-expansion is not a simple algorithm—it is context-dependent. The same abbreviation means different things depending on its position in a word AND its position next to other words.

To be clear, I am not assuming or asserting that some of the Voynich glyphs are abbreviations or ligatures. They might be, they might not. I am simply saying this aspect is overlooked and understudied, and when people have attempted it, it's usually those who are new to this concept and don't realize expansion is context-dependent.
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RE: Which other manuscript contain the most Voynichese glyphs? - by -JKP- - 02-02-2019, 06:05 PM

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