Sleeve focus thread

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In the same region (Trentino) there is Castle Runkelstein (Bolzano) with baggy sleeves in several frescos. Haven't found out a precise date yet, apart from a vague "14th-15th century".
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Hi Koen,
thank you for the interesting thread.

I would like to point out that Castle Runkelstein is in Alto Adige (aka Südtirol).
Trentino-Alto Adige is an administrative region made of two distinct and autonomous provinces: Trentino (main town Trento) is Italian speaking; Alto Adige / Südtirol (main town Bolzano / Bozen) largely is German speaking. Most Italian speakers in Alto Adige are descendants of people who moved there in the XX Century. In the region there also is a Ladin-speaking minority.

I think the German / Italian linguistic split took place in the XIII Century, when the descendants of the Bavarian Eurasburg family (later the Counts of Tirol) took control of Bozen, which was previously ruled by the Prince-Bishops of Trento.

The Aquila tower frescos are in Trento, but they were likely painted by a Bohemian artist. The customer of the cycle was Prince-Bishop Georg von Liechtenstein-Nicolsburg, born in Moravia and descendant of an Austrian family.
The frescoes are said to have been partly inspired by a Tacuinum Sanitatis. If I understand correctly this passage in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., this Tacuinum is the Vienna ms mentioned above (Codex Vindobonensis series nova 2644). The book was painted for the Veronese Speroni family, but it could have been made in Pavia by the Giovannino dei Grassi workshop as a gift from the Visconti family. It later belonged to Prince-Bishop Georg von Liechtenstein.

There's also an interesting fresco in Trentino: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I'm not sure if the sleeves are baggy enough (probably they are) but the style is much closer to the VM. If anyone could find a more precise date for these, it would also be useful.

The Palazzo Nero / Black Palace in Coredo (Val di Non) also is in Trentino. It was built and frescoed in 1460 ca for Prince-Bishop Georg Hack von Themeswald aka Giorgio II Hack von Themeswald.